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That's why my boss allways is in some meeting... I tend to avoid them, just time loose.
The signature is in building process.. Please wait...
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I can understand this if the meeting is with a client or the board and you need to get it perfect but all too often I see this sort of time wasting at much lower level on the food chain.
My biggest bitch is when a requirement meeting is called and 14 people turn up to put their ideas forward, and then spend the first 2 hours arguing about their internal processes.
OR when you can even find an owner of a process you are supposed to reengineer.
Damn will you not wind me up like that.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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Mycroft Holmes wrote: Damn will you not wind me up like that.
This meeting is with HR. Does that help?
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It explains a lot.
They really do have nothing else to do, so their metrics probably include "Number of meetings attended" and "number of meetings arranged".
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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If it is with HR, then it is probably important to have a pre-meeting meeting.
There are normally 4 reasons why HR are involved:
1) Someone is leaving and it is necessary to ensure that company assets (including intellectual properties) are recovered and / or protected.
2) Redundancy / Layoffs - there are normally legal hoops to jump through and it is important that everybody knows what they can and cannot do / say.
3) Recruitment - again there are normally legal things that must be understood: in some places it is illegal to ask questions about certain subjects - family, marital status, religious or sexual orientation for example. If you don't know, then you could land the company in a lot of trouble.
4) Disciplinary - again, legal and contractual procedures that have to be followed, and it is very important that the outcome of the meeting is known well in advance so that nobody starts arguing when the disciplined person is present.
It may sound like rubbish, but from a company point of view getting these things wrong can cost a fortune! 
The only instant messaging I do involves my middle finger.
English doesn't borrow from other languages.
English follows other languages down dark alleys, knocks them over and goes through their pockets for loose grammar.
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Ah! In that case it's even more important to have a pre-meeting meeting - I'd be tempted to arrange a pre-pre-meeting pre-meeting meeting without HR to discuss who is going to bring the ammo and who the doughnuts to the pre-meeting meeting at which you can shoot all the HR, making the actual meeting a much more relaxed affair that could even be held in the pub!
The only instant messaging I do involves my middle finger.
English doesn't borrow from other languages.
English follows other languages down dark alleys, knocks them over and goes through their pockets for loose grammar.
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I've organised a few in the past: a pre-meeting meeting can be a good idea to plan out what you want to cover and to make sure that everybody is "singing from the same song sheet" when it comes to the response, and the way we want the meeting to go. Depending on the type of meeting, it can either drastically reduce the length of the main meeting, or make sure that no one on "your side" is going to go off towards a different goal, or raise matters that could cause complications that can be better copied with internally.
The only instant messaging I do involves my middle finger.
English doesn't borrow from other languages.
English follows other languages down dark alleys, knocks them over and goes through their pockets for loose grammar.
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_Josh_ wrote: The purpose of this meeting is to have a discussion about an up coming meeting.
You should have suggested that you have a separate meeting to decide if this meta-meeting is really required. And you should also convene a meeting to protest the practice of holding meetings over silly things. 
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At a previous workplace we had an external company come in to hold a series of meetings about meetings; they had a number of rules, one of which was:
Every meeting must have an agenda - if you are invited to a meeting and have no agenda you should not attend - or leave the meeting if one is at least not provided at the start of the meeting.
I left immediately as I hadn't been given an agenda - so I really don't know what else was discussed!
MVVM # - I did it My Way
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Man, you're a god. - walterhevedeich 26/05/2011
.\\axxx
(That's an 'M')
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so I asked a while ago what I should download to fill up my spare 20Gb of download for the month.
Bad news is I downloaded 20.12Gb and miscalculated when the new month starts, by a day.
So now I am on a 256K link for 24 hours unless I can be bothered to use my phone's 3g (which isn't running much faster from my office anyway )
MVVM # - I did it My Way
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Man, you're a god. - walterhevedeich 26/05/2011
.\\axxx
(That's an 'M')
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Spend the next 24 hours watching some of the 20 gig of... err... "movies" you downloaded...
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That's what I was going to say. There's not much use downloading stuff if all it's going to do is consume disc space for the next fifty years.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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_Maxxx_ wrote: for the month
Did not bother to ask back then, but is your monthly download limited ? I thought limited accounts were something from the past.
~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus
Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb
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Rage wrote: I thought limited accounts were something from the past.
Not in sunny Australia they aren't 
I'm on 100Gb limit per month (total up and download)
MVVM # - I did it My Way
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Man, you're a god. - walterhevedeich 26/05/2011
.\\axxx
(That's an 'M')
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Got a new boning knife (http://usasharp.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/boning.jpg[^]), so I cut up some chickens for tomorrow barbecue. Now I have fingers with bandages all over and every time I hit the keyboard I press two or more keys...
I can't even touch my phone.
I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is (V).
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Just don't go overboard and take it to a gunfight.
Sent from my BatComputer via HAL 9000 and M5
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Bone the chicken save the fingers, repeat after me...
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(Unco) developers should not be allowed near sharp objects... Myself included!!
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I always near sharp objects - my fellow developers
I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is (V).
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Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote: I always near sharp objects
The sharpest thing I use is c# and believe me, there are days when it's as blunt as a seed drill.
If there is one thing more dangerous than getting between a bear and her cubs it's getting between my wife and her chocolate.
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Back in the day when I was a Boy Scout, we were required to prove that we could handle an edged weapon before we were allowed to carry one. Earning the Tote 'N Chip card was an honor that few held; I had one before I had my First Class Scout badge. Maybe it's time we instituted a similar training and certification program for casual cooks and apartment renters...
Will Rogers never met me.
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Linky[^]
Politicians are always realistically manoeuvering for the next election. They are obsolete as fundamental problem-solvers.
Buckminster Fuller
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Did you at least manage to remove your finger bones? All that suffering's for nothing if you didn't.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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