|
I recently downloaded Bitdefender's 30-day AV evaluation. Upto now I've been using MSE. The first thing I noticed once I installed Bitdefender is how my machine's performance nose-dived. I don't mind losing some performance as it's a small cost for the protection it offers but what I experienced was a significant hit. I uninstalled it and, voila!, performance was back to normal. Opening Outlook and Fox took a long time and loading pages was painfully slow.
I'm prepared to give Bitdefender another chance but has anyone else used it and could comment or should look at another pay-for-use AV app like Kaspersky or something else?
Please don't suggest MacAfee. Please... 
If there is one thing more dangerous than getting between a bear and her cubs it's getting between my wife and her chocolate.
|
|
|
|
|
SeptimusHedgehog 151576 wrote: Please don't suggest MacAfee.
OK.
Have you tried Sementick Symantec? Trust me, it's even worse! 
Seriously? I use MSE - haven't had a problem.
The only instant messaging I do involves my middle finger.
English doesn't borrow from other languages.
English follows other languages down dark alleys, knocks them over and goes through their pockets for loose grammar.
|
|
|
|
|
The problem I have is not if its slow or fast, but if it actually works? How does one judge that really, let the NSA have a go or what?
|
|
|
|
|
I suspect that none of them will keep the NSA out.
If that is what you need, then never connect it to the t'interweb... 
The only instant messaging I do involves my middle finger.
English doesn't borrow from other languages.
English follows other languages down dark alleys, knocks them over and goes through their pockets for loose grammar.
|
|
|
|
|
Or Friend Obama on Facebook
But I really cant tell if I have a virus or not except if the speed of the computer suddenly changes.
|
|
|
|
|
You cannot tell if your AV works until it fails to something particularly nasty and obvious.
“I believe that there is an equality to all humanity. We all suck.” Bill Hicks
|
|
|
|
|
Yeah, but then the people that make the competing software could create a nasty virus to slow your computer down, and make you switch to their product. At least according to some rumors...
|
|
|
|
|
They do: McAfee is created by Symantec, and Symantec by McAfee...
The only instant messaging I do involves my middle finger.
English doesn't borrow from other languages.
English follows other languages down dark alleys, knocks them over and goes through their pockets for loose grammar.
|
|
|
|
|
Dont follow 
|
|
|
|
|
I suspect that McAfee do some of the work on Symantec to make McAfee look "good" while Symantec add code to McAfee to make Norton AV look "good" in comparison.
Because they can't be producing those two steaming piles of rancid monkey poop deliberately that bad independently, can they?
The only instant messaging I do involves my middle finger.
English doesn't borrow from other languages.
English follows other languages down dark alleys, knocks them over and goes through their pockets for loose grammar.
|
|
|
|
|
Quote: two steaming piles of rancid monkey poop
That would depend on who you are hire I dont know, but there are lots of features that I have bought in the past, which I could have done myself as RegEdit cleaners, nearly better to do manually, but a looooot of work . Hat nasty cookieses (In Smeagol voice)...
|
|
|
|
|
I put everything on the internet because I have such a banal life that by being less guarded I make the job of anyone spying on my communications that more tedious and long-winded.
“I believe that there is an equality to all humanity. We all suck.” Bill Hicks
|
|
|
|
|
I too have a banal life - I just don't publish it to make them feel they have achieved something!
The only instant messaging I do involves my middle finger.
English doesn't borrow from other languages.
English follows other languages down dark alleys, knocks them over and goes through their pockets for loose grammar.
|
|
|
|
|
If everyone does that it would explain all the BS questions Perhaps I also should do that?
|
|
|
|
|
Whereas Chris's approach explains 99% of twitter...
The only instant messaging I do involves my middle finger.
English doesn't borrow from other languages.
English follows other languages down dark alleys, knocks them over and goes through their pockets for loose grammar.
|
|
|
|
|
Yep, it might appear as if we are being vacuous and needy, but we're actually fighting against The Man.
“I believe that there is an equality to all humanity. We all suck.” Bill Hicks
|
|
|
|
|
Perhaps SymanShite and MacCrappy will embrace like that photo of the alligator and snake that both died; the alligator killed the snake with a bite and the snake choked the alligator to death. Perhaps other AVs will nuke them as well as it's long overdue.
No wonder John MacAfee went into hiding. He should be punished for crimes against humanity; making a lot of money selling shite to a public that deserved better for their bucks. BTW: does anyone know what Bill is doing these days?
If there is one thing more dangerous than getting between a bear and her cubs it's getting between my wife and her chocolate.
|
|
|
|
|
Not while they still manage to persuade systems builder to ship "trial" versions with product. Even those are a PITA to remove - to the point where most people just don't bother...
The only instant messaging I do involves my middle finger.
English doesn't borrow from other languages.
English follows other languages down dark alleys, knocks them over and goes through their pockets for loose grammar.
|
|
|
|
|
BTW: have you seen this: YouTube: How to remove McAfee, by John McAfee[^] (reasonably SFW)
The only instant messaging I do involves my middle finger.
English doesn't borrow from other languages.
English follows other languages down dark alleys, knocks them over and goes through their pockets for loose grammar.
|
|
|
|
|
They still send me spam when I junked them over 3 years ago!
We have all the MacAfee crap at work, 6 minutes to boot the system and open outlook and VS
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
|
|
|
|
|
|
Much of AV can be the same back end. A previous employer added AV into or desktop product. We had a few vendors offering us their av engine to rent per year/user. Bitdefender was one of them. It all comes down to the extra crap that is coded with the AV engine. It actually wasn't that hard to integrate and was incredibly cheap!
Hogan
|
|
|
|
|
1) Every reputable online benchmark service I have read suggests Virus Scanning does not noticeably impact system performance
2) Every Fortunate company I have ever worked has crippled their machines with punitive virus scanning
At my current place of employment we have what is called "Thursday afternoon" where people just stop working because their PC's become completely unusable for the "Full scan" during normal days it is just 50% of one CPU and 1GB of ram. On Thursdays it can take 2 CPUS to 100%. Fortunately, I am special and actually have a workstation so I no longer have the Thursday blues.
But, long story short, since there is no such thing as perfect virus scan here is what I do:
1) Run Windows Defender routinely
2) Software and Hardware Firewall (PITA I know)
3) Use Firefox or other browser that scans downloads for known viruses
4) Don't use IE and Outlook
5) Purchase a separate "pron" laptop that you just reflash
6) Don't click strange links
7) Make data only back-ups as well as system back-ups.
8) Routinely run a virus scan on your machine (maybe once a month) then uninstall
My work laptops and desktops have never had a virus using this methodology. I am not saying I will get one but the exposure is minimal and the risk of loss is less than the cost of going the "normal route"
|
|
|
|
|
I have much of what you suggest in place with the exception of Outlook. I have that because I have no other and I'm even less trustful of gmail, hotmail and the ilk.
We also used malwarebytes at work recently and it picked up a few "threats" which when we looked at them were false positives. I contacted their support about it and I was asked to post it to their forums which is not the way to do it. I don't want to sign up and waste time letting them know about their problem. That was unusual to say the least.
What made me a little wary of MSE was that I read somewhere that Microsoft don't "trust" it and up to then that's all I used. Perhaps I'm a bit sensitive about AV programs. I did use Avast a couple of years ago so I might go back to their freebie.
If there is one thing more dangerous than getting between a bear and her cubs it's getting between my wife and her chocolate.
|
|
|
|
|
At work my wife had your "Thursday afternoon" experience every single day at noon for months. The only solution (until she got a newer PC) was to reboot when the forced full scan started making the system impossible to use or just go home..
At my work where I am the Admin I had a similar problem (but not as bad since I have an i7) with the company distributed Endpoint and a forced full scan for every user at every day at ~1:00 PM. It was very annoying to me because I have several million files so the scan takes 6+ hours. We have since found the registry keys to be able to disable the forced scans so for the most part this is not a problem.
In either case why on earth are full scans being set to default during normal working hours?
John
modified 1-Nov-13 12:36pm.
|
|
|
|
General 
News 
Suggestion 
Question 
Bug 
Answer 
Joke 
Praise 
Rant 
Admin 
Submit an article or tip
