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Careful:
6. Any personal attacks, any spam, any advertising, any trolling, or any abuse of the rules will result in your account being removed.
This thread could be viewed as construed to get people "upping" your site in the rankings.
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There is only so many ups it requires 
No, not spamming, merely shock and awe at how high it has got.
Also, I do not mention the company by name, and if I did it would be to the regular hilarity and piss taking that I get here as a matter of course.
I do have some spare red buckets if you want one.
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Ad astra per alas porci.
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Just sayin'.
Remember that rules become completely ineffective (destructive, even) if they're not applied across the board, so the hamster god can't afford to be seen displaying any favouritism.
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I quite agree, but this was just something that sent me rather agog.
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Obscurum per obscurius.
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Dalek Dave wrote: this was just something that sent me rather agog.
So how many gogs have you got now, and what do you charge for them?
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You're even above the manufacturer's .co.uk domain! 
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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In Oz using IE 8 on XP google comes in No. 6
Chrome Au google = 0
Chrome everywhere = 3 after the one paid add
Mozilla Google = 3 after the one paid add
Win7 IE10 = 3 after 2 paid adds
....and three after everywhere else.
ConGrats
All you need now is a similar rank for the search "Smart Intercom" or "Intercom" or "Door Bell" or "Doorbell"
Rare words on the internet really work well in search engines.
The other night I was looking at Nagy Vilmos's sig and was wondering what the meaning of the first word was.
I copied it, the whole sig, and then pasted it into google, thinking that it would probably link me to a translation.
Well it didn"t.
The whole page was filled with Big Willy Nagy Vilmos Posts and there were not any paid for entries at the top either.
I went to Google translate. Pasted the same into there and it told me the meaning.
I nodded and I smiled.
"Rock journalism is people who can't write interviewing people who can't talk for people who can't read." Frank Zappa 1980
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Decided to Google Dave, and so I got Dave, the Dalek!!!!
Simon Lee Shugar (Software Developer)
www.simonshugar.co.uk
"If something goes by a false name, would it mean that thing is fake? False by nature?" By Gilbert Durandil
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That's a pretty clever way of spamming here Dave. Make us do the work.
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I provide IT development and support to a large UK-based consumer financial services company. I've written one system single-handed and supported it, dealing with several thousand transactions per hour. For reasons beyond me they decided to outsource it to a China-based company of 15 developers. The Chinese co decided 1st October would be "handover" day. Handover consisted of me supplying the source code; they've asked for nothing else.
I was at a client meeting yesterday (2nd October). They were in a flap as on the evening of 30th Sept they'd received an email from said Chinese company that they were ALL going on holiday for the next 8 days, and would be unavailable. (Seems the Chinese have just started an 8-day national holiday, and are following that directly with a further 4 days to be treated as a "weekend").
Some reallocation of task priorities has taken place...   
Moral: If outsourcing offshore, find out if the offshore country has a total of 29 National Holidays and 5 "weekend" days per year, as China do...
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Moral #2: if you find yourself suddenly needing to ask the previous support individual to extend their support past the agreed end date at short notice be prepared to write a very large cheque!
I hope you enjoy your new car and world cruise!
Andy B
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You should be a happy man. Not that there was chance for long term relation between your client and "Chinese" company.
There is a joke "Why China Wall is very famous? Because of it sheer length..! Naah..Its because that's the only Chinese thing lasted" That's true for their support SLAs too !!
Thanks,
Milind
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MT_ wrote: Its because that's the only Chinese thing lasted
Yup. iphones, ipods, and ipads don't last five minutes.
Nor do Mercedes cars (or most other German cars, for that matter).
Nor do any of the other "prestige" products that are manufactured either in China, or according to designs created in China before it became cheaper to manufacture stuff in the Philippines, Thailand, et al.
And having a culture that has lasted longer, and stayed purer, than any other in the world is irrelevant.
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That was a joke Mark !! It was in context of lots of cheap Chinese products being dumped into international market without any quality checks !!
There are positives and negatives of all countries and all culture and that's true for India/China/US/Europe.
Thanks,
Milind
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MT_ wrote: That was a joke Mark !!
So is the concept of "prestige" products.
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Hey - don't worry about it. He's on retainer by the Chinese as their embassy's unofficial PR Liason.
Along with Panda sh^t, nothing stinks within their borders.
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W∴ Balboos wrote: He's on retainer by the Chinese as their embassy's unofficial PR Liason.
Careful!
Spreading rumours on the Internet like that can get you arrested![^]
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Or Simply Involved in the Spring Harvest[^]
| "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein | | "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert | | "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010 |
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W∴ Balboos wrote: Or Simply Involved in the Spring Harvest[^]
You didn't really fall for that bullsh1t, did you?
Within ten minutes of it being "leaked" on the Internet, it was discredited.
Hell, the "inside source" couldn't even decide whether the "offender" was male or female -- and published pictures of both!
Of course, the daily mail published a story about it several days after it was discredited, but they're complete friggin' idiots...
... And you still believe it, four years down the line.
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DerekTP123 wrote: Seems the Chinese have just started an 8-day national holiday
Yes, and it was kept a big secret from everyone, wasn't it? National holidays are always kept secret. Nobody knows about them.
I know what questions I'd be asking in the next project meeting, starting with "Can we have a major release on 25th December?"
DerekTP123 wrote: Moral: If outsourcing offshore, find out if the offshore country has a total of 29 National Holidays and 5 "weekend" days per year, as China do...
... Make sure that the person in charge of the project knows what he's doing.
If the planning has been thought out this badly, you should start preparing disaster contingencies, on the quiet.
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Quite. Hence the moral. The problem here was that whilst the "front man" is very westernised and easily accepted into BigCo, what BigCo easily forget is that the culture and customs are very different. Not better or worse, just different. And that includes holidays. The irony is that this BigCo (for whom I still provide UK support) was recently trying to get me to sign a contract to commit (as a 1-man consultancy) to providing 7-day a week support, with oncall support response to ALWAYS be within 30 minutes! Day or night!
I don't do anything on the quiet. You don't get paid for stuff you keep quiet about. If you mean planning for alternative work should they really go belly-up, don't worry, I have a queue... 
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Unfortunately there are still many overseas outsourcing evangelists. They reside mostly in countries that provide outsourcing. I am fascinated that many pundits here say it's merely the choice of country that is wrong. No. Overseas outsourcing has been shown to be a very bad model for many project types. Some studies show that up to 70% of projects fail to meet objectives.
In my opinion your case study just shows a complete lack of research by people who considered price above other criteria. The hidden costs for example are immense. You may well be offered work as a project manager. This company is about to learn some hard lessons. Watch the buck passing begin.
http://www.sterlinghoffman.com/cgi-bin/index.pl?p=newsletter/articles/article112.html[^]
http://www.zdnet.com/outsourcing-exec-urges-stop-outsourcing-your-software-development-7000004315/[^]
Peter Wasser
Art is making something out of nothing and selling it.
Frank Zappa
modified 3-Oct-13 9:12am.
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My current main employer had a contractor who subcontracted to have a database created in India.
It was text-book quality in design. That, unfortunately, is why it was basically useless.
I don't fault the developers, themselves - they filled the specs they were given. They simply lacked
(1)Cultural insight . . . which perhaps should have been supplied
(2)The Stones . . . to point out that the design could be more effective with half as many tables
Lesson learned - and hence, as an in-house resource, I'm busier than ever.
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Hello,
So finally I have decided to purchase DSLR and need your help here. Has anyone used Nikon D3200? Which is better Nikon or Canon. I can a go with a little high budget but not a lot.
Thanks 
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