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Funny but how is my post "Out of the box" thinking? Is it because my post (unlike trhe rest) was not a dick joke but a serious comment?
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The associate director of my department asked me to attend a meeting wherein my role would be to create a flow chart of the process the other 10 attendees were describing. Both of us had attended a process mapping class together. It was a great opportunity to demonstrate some mad skills.
Of course, the assumption going into the meeting was that there was a process to map.
That was a bad assumption.
After a two hour meeting all I had managed to put together was a sketch of 10 people trapped in a wind tunnel full of paper.
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Yeah, yer gonna have a bad time.
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Fortunately I've an associate director who recognized it as a quagmire.
We both backed slowly out of the room.
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NICE! Do good things for that person.
"Managers who understand" are a rare commodity.
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Be careful, to compensated for their obvious failure to create a process, you will be on the chopping block for not having adequate qualifications to map said missing process.
Edit: Next time, just draw the cloud.
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Any decent class on process mapping will teach an analyst how to properly map the flow of blame.
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MehGerbil wrote: Any decent class on process mapping will teach an analyst how to properly map the flow of blame.
Its lame to think that blame flows... blame always flies always first class ...
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This is actually my daily job, and it is quite a difficult task, no matter how smart and consensual the people in the room are.
On a side note, ten people is a lot. I hope you made small groups and made them compare their results at the end of the meeting.
~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus
Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb
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We didn't invite that many.
Fully half of them were 'ad-ons'.
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MehGerbil wrote: half of them were 'ad-ons'
You mean half of them were leeches hoping for free meeting coffee and donuts right?
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MehGerbil wrote: After a two hour meeting all I had managed to put together was a sketch of 10 people trapped in a wind tunnel full of paper.
The kind of meetings I end up going to would have been a sketch of me trying to juggle ten cats.
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Wrong, on too many levels. 
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MehGerbil wrote: flow chart of the process
Well it's really difficult to flow chart a Charlie Foxtrot to begin with. 2 hours is not enough time.
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ThePhantomUpvoter wrote: Charlie Foxtrot
I see what you did there...
The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill
America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between. -Oscar Wilde
Wow, even the French showed a little more spine than that before they got their sh*t pushed in.[^] -Colin Mullikin
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Colin Mullikin wrote: I see
Well... "Cluster Elephant" just doesn't have the same ring to it... 
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Did you read that as Charlie as in cluster?
BDF
The internet makes dumb people dumber and clever people cleverer.
-- PaulowniaK
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MehGerbil wrote: Of course, the assumption going into the meeting was that there was a process to
map.
There is always a process.
What this is either a communication error or the people in the room were not involved in the actual work that they were attempting to describe. Or both.
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Each year we (my mum and dad (who pay), my brother, his wife, their two kids, my wife, my daughter, and I) go on holiday for a week stopping in a self catering cottage. We have always gone to Devon and Cornwall.
I am looking for next year now, and have been looking further afield - Dorset.
Been looking all along the south coast of England, Wales, a look at France, but my dad doesn't want to drive over there. Looked at the Channel Islands, and the Isle of Wight.
My wife got carried away and started looking for villas in Spain and Portugal.
Then I had and idea, what about Ireland, the proper bit at the bottom.
Cottages are about a quarter to a fifth of the price everywhere else I've looked.
Am I missing something? Is there anything wrong with Ireland to make it so cheap? Is there actually anything there to do?
If you were two old but active persons, four in your thirties, and three children aged between 6 and 10, where would you go on holiday and why?
“I believe that there is an equality to all humanity. We all suck.” Bill Hicks
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Check the ferry costs - it's normally £300~£400 for a car and passengers...
Other than that, lovely place.
The only instant messaging I do involves my middle finger.
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It was the cost of getting three cars to Guernsey that scuppered a proposed holiday there two years ago.
Trying to get the cost of a ferry to anywhere is a mission in itself on the websites, a mission I have so far failed to complete.
“I believe that there is an equality to all humanity. We all suck.” Bill Hicks
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Check out Irish Feries[^], around £250 for a car. Whatever you do don't even think about the Swansea-Cork crossing, even in the summer you'll hate it!
I'd look at SW, maybe in or around Cork, normally good [for Ireland] weather. The great advantage of holidaying in Ireland is that there's no chance of sunburn. The drawback is the tendency to rust.
speramus in juniperus
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+10 The Swansea Cork crossing is always rough - last time me and wifey went it took 14 hours and even the hard lorry drivers were being sick. Oh, and you end up in Cork.
We can’t stop here, this is bat country - Hunter S Thompson RIP
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pkfox wrote: +10 The Swansea Cork crossing is always rough - last time me and wifey went it took 14 hours and even the hard lorry drivers were being sick.
When I was about 12 or 13 we went on a North sea ferry to Belgium in very rough weather. The toilet floors were awash with vomit, hailstones the size of tennis balls were pelting the outside decks, everyone was sitting down and clinging on.
I was the only person in the restaurant, tucking into steak and kidney pie and chips.
“I believe that there is an equality to all humanity. We all suck.” Bill Hicks
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