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Brisingr Aerowing wrote: CLICKING THAT SHOULD CLEAR THE UNREAD FLAG. RAVI IS NOT TALKING ABOUT MESSAGES IN HIS EMAIL CLIENT!
Which unread flag, and why didn't he say so?
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Richard MacCutchan wrote: <layer>Which unread flag, and why didn't he say so?
The post's unread flag. I did. Can't help it if you chose to not read the entire post.
/ravi
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Ravi Bhavnani wrote: The post's unread flag.
Quite, which would, to most people, refer to the flag maintained by one's email client.
Ravi Bhavnani wrote: Can't help it if you chose to not read the entire post.
I did read it, but nowhere did you mention that you were referring to the drop down list that appears when you click on the little number to the left of your name in a CodeProject window. Which, for the record stated:
Quote: When I receive an email notification of a reply to my post, I click the link in the message to view the reply. However, my list of unread messages remains unchanged, requiring me to have to manually clear the unread flag. Clicking the link in the email should clear the post's unread flag.
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Richard MacCutchan wrote: which would, to most people, refer to the flag maintained by one's email client.
Really? I've never known anyone refer to an entry in an email client's list of messages as a "post". 
Richard MacCutchan wrote: nowhere did you mention that you were referring to the drop down list that appears...
I wasn't. I was referring to the list of unread posts shown when you click on the number - i.e. the UI where you manually mark some (or all) posts as being read.
/ravi
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Ravi Bhavnani wrote: I've never known anyone refer to an entry in an email client's list of messages as a "post".
Well you're obviously not British.
Ravi Bhavnani wrote: I was referring to the list of unread posts shown when you click on the number
Well perhaps you should have said so in the first place. I'm afraid my crystal ball is a bit cloudy today.
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Richard MacCutchan wrote: Well you're obviously not British.
Ah... I see your confusion. When I was a kid I used to refer to snail mail as "post", but after having moved to the US (several decades ago) refer to is as just "mail".
But I've never encountered a software engineer (British or otherwise) to confuse the noun "post" (which is accepted terminology for a message in a forum) with an email message, until now.
/ravi
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I wasn't confused, but your title and content was ambiguous.
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Yes, I surmised you found the title and content of my post (BTW, by "post" I mean my entry in this forum, not an email message I may or may not have sent) to be ambiguous.
/ravi
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Which you could easily have explained in response to my first message, rather than chasing me down this blind alley.
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Recently there have been two instances in which an answer I posted to a Q&A question vanished.
The first case is explained rather easily: I paused while writing the answer to go and write some code and verify something, and, by the time I had submitted my answer, the question had been taken down. I assume that the CP server has better things to do than to flag an answer-in-progress and block a question being closed.
The second case is more interesting because my answer was submitted, and the question was taken down after my submission. I thought that once an answer was submitted, the original question would not be taken down for any reason.
I was able to recover my rather lengthy answer from Google's web-cache: [^].
And, this was the thread I replied to, now reported as "Sorry, the item you requested could not be found.": [^].
My opinion is that once an answer is submitted and then posted on CP, the question, and answer(s), should not be taken down.
Clarification ?
thanks, Bill
Google CEO, Erich Schmidt: "I keep asking for a product called Serendipity. This product would have access to everything ever written or recorded, know everything the user ever worked on and saved to his or her personal hard drive, and know a whole lot about the user's tastes, friends and predilections." 2004, USA Today interview
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Well,i feel sorry and really appreciate your effort for that.But if some question get 3 reports then it gets deleted automatically. It is set for some reason. As you already know there are so many question in quick answers section which are either Unclear or not a question (I consider non question which can simply be solved using simple google search).
IMHO,if it remains intact, it will encourage the OP to post such questions ('Non question' will be more suitable). You can even see this right now in that section. There are so many Members who posts questions with no effort,no proper explanation,just like 'i want this','please explain me..' and this is because they are getting answers also. Its ok if you provide some answer just not to show it in unanswered list or its some what necessary,but it should not be every time.
So it would be good in order to improve the quality of the content and to encourage OP to try something and be here with some concrete reasons.And i think its clearly mentioned also in CP Guidlines while we try to put question.
[Edit]:
Recent one:How to set Excel file as Download using asp.net[^]
http://s20.postimg.org/nvkq3fzb1/Unclear.jpg[^]
"When you don't know what you're doing it's best to do it quickly"- SoMad
modified 24-Sep-13 6:08am.
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If a question is posed in a way where there's essentially no effort being made to explain the issue, let alone word it in a way that makes sense, then it should be closed. We are a community that encourages people to post questions regardless of whether they are "dumb" questions, but as a community we must also ask our users to meet us halfway and at least put a modicum of effort into a question.
Bill - you've a saint for taking the time to answer the question in the manner you did. I would like to really stretch the friendship and ask that, before answering a question, you ensure the question is clear and answerable for others, which may mean taking a moment to clean up the question first.
PS. I've cleaned up the question and restored it.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Chris, I'm not convinced this is quite working - there are some individuals here who seem rather too "trigger happy" with the "not a question" marker. If they don't understand it, then it's not a question and they mark it as such. If the OP has poor English skills it can take some thinking to work out what they are trying to say, but it's important to them and kinda rude of us to say "talk better or go away".
I've had what Bill describes a couple of times, and I assume the "sea of gray" that washes across QA from time to time is related to this. Not sure what can be done, but not all the questions that disappear should have been squashed to my mind.
The only instant messaging I do involves my middle finger.
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OriginalGriff wrote: I've had what Bill describes a couple of times, and I assume the "sea of gray" that washes across QA from time to time is related to this. Not sure what can be done, but not all the questions that disappear should have been squashed to my mind.
When the only tool you have is a LART all posters start to look like Lusers?
Some people need bigger tool boxes. With rare exceptions 7x2x2 feet, with a padlock hasp on the outside should be big enough.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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OriginalGriff wrote: Not sure what can be done, but not all the questions that disappear should have been squashed to my mind.
The dilemma seems to be that we either guess what the OP was asking and risk a right answer to a wrong question (though this is still valuable to others) or we leave it alone and have unanswerable questions. The worst thing, in my view, is to do nothing, so I lean towards trying to correct the question and then, if further discussion clarifies things, then further adjustment of the question and answers. An iterative, and potentially slow/painful approach, but the most likely to achieve convergence to the intention of the question.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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I absolutely agree - get clarification!
The problem is that some members appear to be rather less tolerant of beginners with poor English skills, or don't realise that a learner is probably confused to start with, assumes there is only one way to do anything and doesn't know what to ask, let alone how to say it! 
Perhaps your stats could give you a list of "highest non-a-question" voters and then a quiet word is all that is needed? I don't know - I'm guessing based on the kind of responses you see to poor questions before they vanish, is all.
The only instant messaging I do involves my middle finger.
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I have to agree with OG on this. I've seen people commenting that something isn't a question or that there's been no effort when all that was needed to turn the question into a good one is just a gentle bit of coaxing. Judging by the amount of gray I see on questions in the QA section, either every question poster is a wastrel simpleton, or people are being a bit too heavy handed with them.
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So the question for me is: how do we motivate people to clarify instead of drive-by slam?
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Chris Maunder wrote: how do we motivate people to clarify instead of drive-by slam?
Hi Chris,
Well, that rhetorical question is a good excuse for me to bring the old nag's corpse out, and flay it again 
As I've said (too many times) on this forum, I think there are several practical ways CP, as a community, can, without "scaring people off," improve the quality of questions, and responses, on general discussion forums, as well as Q&A.
1. Partly based on the idea that people generally don't respect, and don't "invest" psychologically in what they "get" "for free:"
a. Have a simple question entry facility that absolutely requires the OP to enter more than one Tag. For example, if the OP selects "C#" as their language, then I believe they should have no problem specifying whether they are working with WinForms, WPF, ASP.NET, etc.
b. If a question is asked of the OP via a comment, asking for clarification, then allow moderators, or other people with certain types of high reputation, to suspend accepting solutions for the question asked ... until the OP responds in some way to the question asked. Yes, I realize that's a tricky one. Probably better would be that if three or more persons with high reps as Authority use the Report facility to select a category like: "Suspend until OP responds" ?
I do realize the StackOverFlow "blocked/stopped by posse" method reflects a whole different "culture" that may be quite alien to CP's more free-form weltanschauung, but I believe that CP, as a community, can come up with a "humane" way to place a reasonable demand on the OP for response, as a condition of receiving further help.
2. The issue of moving questions from general discussion forums to Q&A is something I think should be addressed, somehow. What is the point of having two types of forums, with very different interfaces, when they are both filling up with the same type of questions ? I know you are already thinking about this, Chris, and, if you, and CP, decide to merge them, that's fine with me, although my preference is to maintain the two types of forums.
3. On the other side of the equation in Q&A, in terms of the respondents: there is a high frequency of "canned" replies (as solutions), often having little to do with the question asked, by certain persons who, in my perceptions, have become "rep-automatons." I believe this phenomenon, and its concomitant behavior of frequently posting hyper-critical comments on others' solutions, is not healthy for CP, but doing something about that is, inherently, "sticky." I feel recognizing the issue is, at least, a first step towards bringing our collective wisdom to bear on how we can change the phenonmena without being punitive, or hurtful, or dampening someone's enthusiasm.
How easy it is to think of issues other people could deal with
As always, thanks for the wonderful playground for the mind that CP has become in my little life.
bill
Google CEO, Erich Schmidt: "I keep asking for a product called Serendipity. This product would have access to everything ever written or recorded, know everything the user ever worked on and saved to his or her personal hard drive, and know a whole lot about the user's tastes, friends and predilections." 2004, USA Today interview
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Been an active user of codeproject and discussion topics always attract me but the way are represented and comes in disturbing nd annoying threaded view makes it hard to read it properly.
Can you CodeProject guys please improve the layout for this
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And what would you suggest?
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exexzian wrote: the way are represented and comes in disturbing nd annoying threaded view makes it hard to read it properly
If you don't like the threaded view then choose "Thread View" in the "Layout" dropdown and click on the "Update" button. After doing this, you only see the threads in the forum, and to see the replies, click on the "View the <number> replies to this message" link.
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exexzian wrote: thanks alot
You're welcome!
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