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I'm 0 for 2 at being at fault as a car driver.
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You'd better get your skates on, then.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Hi,
I graduated with an advanced honors diploma in programming December of last year and I have not been employed by anyone sense then ( I do have a year co-op experience as a developer working for a large bank too). I was experiencing stress in my final years of college and I decided to move back in with my parents to take a break. Unfortunately, they live in a rural area where there is no IT work. Now I am going to start my career again.
During my time off, I have been practicing the trade. I have created a Single Paged Application utilizing JavaScript, HTML, Web Services and ASP WebApi called Spell This (requires logging in: http://www.robbiebrandrick.com/Projects[^]) I have created a Blog engine (http://www.robbiebrandrick.com/[^]) I have even tried freelancing, but unfortunately, I have had problem with my clients not following through, but, I am currently working on a e-commerce website using shopify for my fathers company.
My question is how can I sell my self on my resume and cover letter to show my dedication and skills? Any opinions of my situation are welcome! I know that once I got in the door I would be an asset.
Thanks for your time to read this
robNo
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One suggestion:
If you live in a rural area, maybe try to find a particular domain where you can invent and create some software that would help people in their daily lives; it might not be web based, but maybe something on a tablet/phone, look around, ask people you know:
I'd rather be phishing!
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That is a great idea. ECommerce is what I have been trying as there is no one who does that type of thing around here.
Thanks for your idea.
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RobNO wrote: how can I sell my self
I'd recommend craigslist[^]. People will buy anything on there... 
The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill
America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between. -Oscar Wilde
Wow, even the French showed a little more spine than that before they got their sh*t pushed in.[^] -Colin Mullikin
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Haha, I figured that joke was coming when I wrote that.
Thanks for your idea.
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It's quite difficult and you'll face always the "no experience" issue...
Until you'll find the right job.
It is possible that you will need to start with something a little "under specs", but at least you'll get money, then you'll be able to continue searching for a better job, at that point you'll be able to say that you'll have experience at least in the job world.
In the cover letter you should explain why you've chosen the company and why do they should choose you... be specific, let them know why this can be a good relationship for both. In the CV put all the information in a clear and concise way, put your picture there and hope the best.
Also try to find out people who you know to spread the voice... here it still works somehow...
Good luck finding your way! 
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I will keep that in mind to get my foot in that door and expand from there. Great CL/CV advice.
Thanks for your advice.
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I've never bothered to find a job, they have always found me. In my experience, having family, friends, recruiters looking works much better than doing it myself.
1. Tell family, friends, people at church, etc. you are looking for a job. Most of them will get a bonus if they are the entry point for your job.
2. Take entry level, don't be proud, and just take what you can get (but make sure it is relevant to your career choice). Once you have a job, it is easier to find the next one.
3. Get in touch with recruitment agencies. They are miserable bottom feeders, but they will get you that first job (and every once in a while, they are really great).
4. Look for a job, like it is your job, make sure you apply somewhere every day.
5. Commute. I live in a very rural area, so I just have a very long commute. This will work for a while, until you are happy with the job and find a place closer to where you work.
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Thanks for your advice. I will look into recruitment agencies and try everyday to find that job even if I have to commute 5 hours to the nearest city!
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5 hours is a bit long, maybe use an extended stay hotel during the week (if you live w/ parents, you should have some cash left over for that).
Also, look for agencies in multiple cities around you, be honest if there is more than 1, you do not want 2 agencies placing you at the same job! Don't get stuck with those email spammers that never materialize a real job. Also, insist on full time employment with the agency (they pay you even while you are not at a job site) or else permanent placement. Those are the only good options. Temp jobs are 
Also, just a note, some companies only hire through these agencies... so you limit your job search if you refuse to use them.
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Extended stay hotels have reasonable rates... I've had to do that before. Worked out until I found an apartment.
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Great advice! I am not planning on commuting to the cities everyday as it is not practical. I will look into extended stay hotels, if I get a job.
Thanks lots!
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If you're in a rural area, honestly you might find it difficult. To get any kind of freelance work that'll make even a living wage is really hard, because the market is flooded (take a look at the quotes people give for bespoke development etc on sites like people per hour and you'll see what I mean).
If you want to be able to work from home, you'll need to have made enough contacts in the industry to get the kind of independent work that can support you, so asides from that I think that I would recommend the following.
1. Work out where you can handle living - does it have to be within X hours of home? If so, what does that open up.
2. Really think about point 1 - if you've had a rough time and needed the peace and support of the home environment, make sure that when you move away you're still not too far if you need that support (and hey, if you're working, maybe you can think about airports and so on that are easier to get to, when you're getting a wage plane tickets might not seem as extortionate!)
3. Keep working in your free time - work on projects on your site, find other projects you're interested in and get on GitHub - fork, contribute and blog as much as you can, share opinions and learn from others. When it comes to applying for jobs, interviewers will almost certainly look you up on the internet.
4. Get on LinkedIn and find recruitment agencies. Tell them what you're looking for and where you want to be - get them involved. They'll make a commission on your role, but it will be the company not you that pays it. They're financially motivated to get you a job and they've got the contacts, so get them on the case.
Point 4 is probably the most useful in terms of practicalities, point 1 in terms of health and stability.
Search for any freelance work you can do at the same time, but make getting that first job a priority, and use recruiters. Don't use freelance work as a way to get money - you'll end up disappointed, use it as a chance to build a portfolio of things you've done, look for short, sweet, simple projects, explain that you're young and will essentially do them for cost just for the experience. Avoid anything where people can make demands of you that last more than a couple of weeks, you won't get paid enough for the hassle.
Once you've got the interviews, you'll be OK. I've been running interviews at the company I work for for a while, and generally we're looking for experienced guys to hit the ground running with complex projects, but also junior people with a hard-working enthusiastic attitude.
Good luck!
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Thanks for the great advice and thanks for trying to see it from my point of view. Health and stability are my biggest concerns and are my #1 priority. I am trying to do just as you say "Work out where you can handle living"
I will look into a recruitment agency on linkedin for an area where I am comfortable.
Thanks for the encouragement!
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go to dice.com
relocate
talk to recruiters
do contract-to-hire
be willing to work for peanuts
There's a lot of work out there. I know because I'm looking (but not willing to relocate at this time and am focused on C/C++, which are hard jobs to find.)
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Thanks, Ill look into those.
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It's probably a combination of being in a rural area and not having any experience that's really getting you. Try applying in bigger cities, if anything comes up, then figure out how to relocate then. Usually a lot of companies will cover relocation expenses or will assist with temporary living until you find a place (I had my first job pay for a month or two of living in a hotel until I got an apartment).
Good luck and happy hunting! 
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Thanks for the advice. I will do just that.
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Best advice is don't get discouraged.... all it takes is one "yes" to make all those "no's" not matter. As your first job hardest thing is getting your foot in the door. I graduated from college during the dot com bust time and there were hardly any jobs (dot coms were falling left and right so there was a surplus of engineers and developers), so I started grad school in the mean time until I found something.
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Thanks, I'll try not to get discourage. After all, as you stated, there are lots of different possibilities. I'll put this in my mind now, in case I eventually feel that way. Thanks for the encouragement! It helps me!
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Start interviewing in big cities and plan to move to the big city where you get a job. Getting your first job is going to be the hardest, and you're making the problem worse by not being where most jobs are.
For software developers, a good cover letter and resume don't usually go very far; most people just scan it to see what skills and technologies you list. Instead of focusing too much on your resume, focus more on interviewing skills and job skills.
It sounds like you already have a good focus on your job skills; now, just try to land as many interviews as you can and focus on reading your interviewers and figuring out what kind of employees they want to hire; you'll eventually figure out how to sell yourself to them.
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Good ideas. I will look into improving my interviewing skills and job skills.
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It's got to be one of us lot: XKCD OTD[^] - Gliese 667C/e
Had to be one of us...
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