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Wait, what? Have I been so out of app-land that I don't know what you are talking about? You have to pay to distribute any Metro app (or at least split commission)?
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Yeah I knew Apple and Google did this. So to make a Windows 8 app, you MUST agree to these stipulations if you decide to release it? Or is this mobile only?
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This is for METRO apps, not desktop apps. This is not mobile only. This is mobile AND desktop. Um, careful on the terminology there. Physical desktop PCs can run "Desktop" and "Metro" apps... both "desktop hardware" apps.
If you write a Metro app (for mobile or to run on a PC sitting on a desk) you MUST agree to those terms or your customers will not be able to get your app. The Metro UI is locked into the Microsoft app store, so if you want to distribute your wares to the public, you must do it through the MS app store.
Terminology:
"Desktop": Could mean the PC sitting on your desk or the "non-metro apps... like Windows 7 apps".
"Metro apps": These are apps that use the Metro UI, whether they're on a mobile device or on the desktop. All metro apps can only be acquired through the MS app store.
I'm not surprised you weren't aware of this. Most people (even most developers) still don't know this. Who would ever think that MS would use the nuclear option considering what they went through for simply bundling IE with Windows?
I'll be surprised if the DOJ doesn't get involved. I've already registered a complaint with them. I encourage everyone else to do so too. We developers need our freedoms.
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Thank you for both replies. I'm out of the loop as I don't do mobile development, and do almost exclusively inhouse / back office type development.
CSharpner.com wrote: I'll be surprised if the DOJ doesn't get involved. I've already registered a complaint with them. I encourage everyone else to do so too. We developers need our freedoms.
I'd be surprised if the DOJ did get involved, considering how long Apple has been doing this.
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Well, MS was legally declared a monopoly, so they get different rules than Apple (rightly or wrongly).
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Yes!
Signup: iOS = $99/how often?, Android = $25/once, Metro = $99/yr
App Store takes: Apple = 30%, GooglePlay = 30%, Metro = 30%, Amazon Android App store = depends
On Android, anyone can sideload apps which means you're not restricted to just the Google app store. There are competing stores, like Amazon, plus you can sell it on your own web site.
Metro apps are a 100% walled garden. You MUST get permission from Microsoft. You MUST pay them. You MUST pay them every year. You MUST agree to their terms. They will TAKE 30% of your earnings.
There are no other options for Metro.  (
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Wow, I'd like to change my survey vote to never. I won't be using Metro.
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Both apple and google take 30% of the revenue. You need to add a cost of opening account to that which is only $25 for google and $100 for apple but (from what I heard) $500 for MS. I do however ad supported free apps. With their market penetration it makes sense. I'll sit on the side line till I see if MS can turn this in their favor. So far with the numbers they boast in the mobile space, building apps for them is just a waste of time.
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Nice to now - thanks for the info. Now thinking about it I wonder if they would have different stores/registrations for Window Store vs. Mobile store (same as Apple does). Then it just might be worth it as a way to distribute your apps to the huge window user base vs. tiny WP7 market share.
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'nough said.
m.bergman
For Bruce Schneier, quanta only have one state : afraid.
To succeed in the world it is not enough to be stupid, you must also be well-mannered. -- Voltaire
In most cases the only difference between disappointment and depression is your level of commitment. -- Marc Maron
I am not a chatbot
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It better go rinse its mouth out with bleach or something, yuck.
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m.bergman
For Bruce Schneier, quanta only have one state : afraid.
To succeed in the world it is not enough to be stupid, you must also be well-mannered. -- Voltaire
In most cases the only difference between disappointment and depression is your level of commitment. -- Marc Maron
I am not a chatbot
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I work on the server side these days and have no plans to get involved in desktop UI in near future.
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Jumping on the Metro bandwagon (or bus or handbasket)?
FTFY
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No.
Windows 8 is an epic fail.
Microsoft is an epic fail.
"the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
"No, that is just the earthly manifestation of the Great God Retardon." - Nagy Vilmos (2011)
"It is the celestial scrotum of good luck!" - Nagy Vilmos (2011)
"But you probably have the smoothest scrotum of any grown man" - Pete O'Hanlon (2012)
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My opinion.
Collin Jasnoch wrote: How does something have an Epic Fail if it has not even started?
Oh, I don't know. Google search "Windows 8 sucks"...what do you see? IMHO, this viewpoint will not change for the end user as well.
Windows 8 might just be the thing for Mobile apps but not desktops, IMHO.
-- cheers
"the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
"No, that is just the earthly manifestation of the Great God Retardon." - Nagy Vilmos (2011)
"It is the celestial scrotum of good luck!" - Nagy Vilmos (2011)
"But you probably have the smoothest scrotum of any grown man" - Pete O'Hanlon (2012)
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Collin Jasnoch wrote: One could reverse it and also get results "Windows 8 Rocks". Doesn't mean anything...
Windows 8 rocks - About 33,500,000 results
Windows 8 sucks - About 54,400,000 results
Must mean something, surely 
No seriously I agree it doesn't mean much but so far the feedback I'm hearing is far from glowing.
Like most people, I think Metro makes sense for tablets and phones but not the desktop.
I rely on MS for my living and for the most part like what they do but Win8 has me at a loss. I just can't imagine how serious applications could ever work in Metro and switching between the two UIs is not elegant. Its probably fine if all I want to do is check the weather and read my facebook!
As a dev I'm very frustrated. I no longer have a clear platform I should be developing in and I don't like the uncertainty.
Guess only time will tell if it takes off.
--
The Obliterator
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Collin Jasnoch wrote: one of them is not really a desktop but more a dedicated "Search". The
effectiveness of the search is how you interact.
Personally I loathe the inbuilt searching and indexing functions of Weven, and imho the move towards "don't worry about where you stash things, because search will be your saviour" drives me nuts. I know where I want to file things, and dammit, I'll file them there!!
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