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Java Rocks: This poll is skewed as this is a mostly MS forum. Netbeans
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studleylee wrote: This poll is skewed as this is a mostly MS forum
says the Java Developer. 
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Not really: I know: I didn't really intend to take sides. I used to do all coding in MFC,then using STDlib( which is great),
then .net  Silverlight and the ribbon menu-ing made me want to gag, then I just got tired of changing the game every 2 years, so I converted during the past year everything to JAVA. I'm even exploring the RealTime Java stuff, so I'm not truly a Java guy until recently. It's just a simpler nice way to be. Life gets too complicated when you try to chase other peoples whims or reasoning.
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related story: back in 1995 I was a new grad engineer at Qualcomm. Another new kid showed in our group who was a 16 year old Java prodigy. I remember then the Visual C++ documentation had Java all over and was almost hinting the C++ was deprecating. I tease him somewhat as we went off to our Qcomm paid-for MFC classes. A few SUN/Oracle lawsuits later and Now I'd like to go back in time, apologize and pay close attention to what he was saying. jmho
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<sarcasim>says the Java Developer</sarcasim>
It was meant as cruel joke. Take it easy
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Hi Yusuf, I know, I wasn't ruffled at all, just thought I'd explain my point of view some. Hope I didn't
offend. I should have worded my subject line in a more light hearted way.
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studleylee wrote: Hope I didn't
offend.
not at all, peace 
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Actually we just built /our own/ so that it can work with the rest of the application.
Panic, Chaos, Destruction.
My work here is done.
or "Drink. Get drunk. Fall over." - P O'H
OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre
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Which technology do you like?
- Java
- .Net
- Others
The result will look as: Java (5%), .Net (92%) and Others (3%) or somewhere near around. Just my guess.
There is a Joke in Hindi (in India): How many types of Java are there? The answer is two: Mar Jaw(v)a [means die] and Mit Jaw(v)a [means completely destroy].
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how colourful ...
Yeee 
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PHP is probabaly the most popular one for web, ahead of .NET
TOMZ_KV
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How about the myriad of people who use java AND .net AND others? My work is a combination of Java, C# and C++ plus legacy VB and scripting in TCL. No particular technology is bad, even VB as it does what we want from it, but they have their limitations.
Panic, Chaos, Destruction.
My work here is done.
or "Drink. Get drunk. Fall over." - P O'H
OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre
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Either I s*ck or Java does. Vote 5 if I s*ck. Else 5 just for the hell of it!
No seriosuly I HATE it. So many frameworks jThis jThat worst then iThis and iThat.
Also the most famous horror that came out of it: Notes!
No thanks
All the best,
Dan
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i am .net developer .
my problem with .net is that it close source and could not run .net in other os .
i work with .net 10 years but programmer in my country switch slowly to java BECAUSE java is open source and run in linux os .
.net have top IDE and support all new technology .
why microsoft dose not solve this probleeeeeeeeeeem why why why 
sorry for bad english writing language;
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There is also mono which allows .NET development on linux and other non windows systems.
aa.azizkhani wrote: why microsoft dose not solve this probleeeeeeeeeeem why why why
There is not that much money in it for them if you think of it in a cost benefit bases.
John
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Mono is open source and runs on Linux and some of the Language runs on Mac OS.
Sharpdevelop is an open source IDE for .net languages.
Java is not open source.
When Oracle bought Sun, they proved exactly how closed it is.
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aa.azizkhani wrote: probleeeeeeeeeeem why why why
Calm down.
Take a deep breath.
Hold...
...hold...
...and release.
Doesn't that feel better?
Now, why don't you sit down and tell us all about your problem?
I'll start if you want:
"> Hello, I am Eliza."
Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together.
Digital man: "You are, in short, an idiot with the IQ of an ant and the intellectual capacity of a hose pipe."
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It is exactly what you consider weakness the strength of .NET, making it opensource is simply to destroy it like Java.
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I would like to vote .. but I don't know how can I do  ) ?
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U have to go to the codings projects sites and clicky voting button. It is on the right side under a column of expressions with checkboxes.
Greetings - Jacek
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got it, Thanks
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I'm biased towards C# cause it is what I know. I tried Java a few years ago and I couldn't find a comparable IDE for development. I'm sure I'll get blasted with Eclipse or something else, but they are [or at least were last time I used them] a pain in the butt to set up. Then you have to get 100 plug ins to make them actually do what you want. Visual Studio just installs and works! Thanks Microsoft!!!
Hogan
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According to IDE, since VS allows me to just set the target framework to Mono i have no reason to go back to Eclipse/SharpDevelop.
Talking about Java -- well, it's too uncomfortably OO. I feel sick when I have to dig through three or so inheritance levels just to open a file stream. Too many keystrokes in so many places. var, collection&dictionary initializers, lambdas, properties -- all this made me too lazy to be a Java programmer. C# doesn't have unnamed classe, though.
Greetings - Jacek
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Jacek Gajek wrote: Too many keystrokes in so many places. var, collection&dictionary initializers, lambdas, properties -- all this made me too lazy to be a Java programmer.
A mostly .NET colleague has also done quite a lot of Java in the past few years and is doing both Java and .NET right now. He prefers .NET overall but says Eclipse is more advanced in some respects but less in others.
Re: java itself he's had the opportunity to do some Scala and that seems to be where it's at in the Java world right now if you want to be cool. Basically, when he can, he tries to do his Java work in Scala! Tooling is a bit rough around the edges though.
Also Scala is nice for modern C# developers - all the type inference and lambda stuff. More accessible than F# too.
Kevin
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