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Johnny J. wrote: I've SEEN people being verbally abused based on their race - without Chris or anybody else from the CP interfering - I would say that's condoning in my opinion
And I would say "I can't be everywhere", which is why I put in place measures to allow members to remove messages that are inappropriate. I'm not going to spend all my time moderating every post. No website operator can or should do this. I spend my time ensuring the website allows the community to moderate itself, which is the only way it can work. If you take a look at the message you will see that it has now been blocked by the community.
I will (and should, and do) quietly step in when things are totally off base but there are things I miss, and things I have to go back and clean up when I'm made aware. However, trying to compare eating an animal to eating a human is a falicious argument. Should I delete every post by those in cultures that eat dog? Should I delete every post regarding bacon because of potential offense to those of other religions? It's the same thing. However, post a link to a serious, illustrated guide to canabilism and that link, and your account, are history.
This all boils down to the question of "what is offensive". What is offensive to one is not offensive to another and it's completely impossible to censor every post that is potentially offensive to someone. Someone, somewhere, is not going to like what you say or the clothes you are wearing when you say it. Freedom of speech, Thought Police, oppression - these terms all get thrown at you and people leave because they are scared to say "boo" without their account being deleted.
Yes, I too find the practice of eating animals we keep and love as pets offensive but I made the call to not step in because the post was on a topic that straddled serious cultural differences and, while it was posted as a joke, it served as a catalyst for a debate that highlighted the very differences between our world of members that make CodeProject, and the internet as a whole, a place where stereotypes can be broken down through dialogue and understanding.
And speaking of cultural differences and tolerance: I've also been called many names in my time, but racist is a new one, and is one I reject.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Chris Maunder wrote: I've also been called many names in my time, but racist is a new one, and is one I reject.
I have never seen you make any comment that could be considered racist.
But the Ashes are starting and I shall expect a few Anti-English sentiments to come hurtling across the ether!
(Not necessarily from you, but from other Ocker Members).
Would they be banned and classed as racist? I do hope not, for I am looking forward to responding in kind! 
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Chris Maunder wrote:
And speaking of cultural differences and tolerance: I've also been called many names in my time, but racist is a new one, and is one I reject.
I didn't call you peronally a racist, but by not acting/sticking your head in the sand/"allowing the community to moderate itself" - you're condoning racism...
Chris Maunder wrote: the website allows the community to moderate itself
You can't do that when some individuals put their own right of speech above the respect for other people...
Chris Maunder wrote: trying to compare eating an animal to eating a human is a falicious argument.
Why? That too is acceptable in certain cultures - no difference there...
You don't need to worry, I'm not planning to post a picture guide on that, but your argument that that is two different things don't hold up...
1f y0u c4n r34d 7h15 y0u r3411y n33d 70 g37 14!d
Gotta run; I've got people to do and things to see...
Don't tell my folks I'm a computer programmer - They think I'm a piano player in a cat house...
Da mihi sis crustum Etruscum cum omnibus in eo!
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Johnny,
I think this thread has been done to death.
Your views have been made, opinions expressed, and arguements entered into.
Draw a line and move on.
There is so much more to talk about than a now old subject.
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Chris Maunder wrote: falicious
Is that a new word derived from "feline" and "delicious", or did you mean "fallacious"?
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That will teach me to stop using IE and start using a browser with an inbuilt "guess who can't spell!" feature.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Not so much a bug as an opinion.
When a new post is made using the 'news' option, it gets a Bold 'NEWS' header on the post.
Given that the other options have a pertinant icon rather than a word, could not some form of consistancy be maintained.
ie an Icon for news?
I would suggest a small newspaper icon, or a lightbulb (for it is illuminating).
I think the word 'News' looks inconsistant and ugly.
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I'm guessing you're using Firefox.
"News" items do have an icon, but it seems that the image, for some reason, wasn't downloaded when you viewed the page. FireFox shows the ALT text if it can't find the image. The alt text, in this case, is News.
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Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Amazing what a Ctrl F5 can do.
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Seriously, Lambda Simplified[^] is not a good article and yet it's in the Best C# article survey. What's wrong? Weren't there enough decent articles in place that this one could sneak in?
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There's an ethnic voting bloc at work here I suspect.
“The fact that some geniuses were laughed at does not imply that all who are laughed at are geniuses. They laughed at Columbus, they laughed at Fulton, they laughed at the Wright Brothers. But they also laughed at Bozo the Clown.” ~ Carl Sagan
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Sadly I suspect you're right. Yet, looking at the voting on the article, the guy has attracted more my votes of 1 than sh*t attracts flies.
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It must have had just enough votes to make a spot.
Thanks,
Sean Ewington
The Code Project
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I think there needs to be some manual filtering then before allowing articles into the "Best article" categories. There seems to have been a fair amount of shill voting on that article to counter the fact that so many people voted it 1. With such a blizzard of downvotes, I'd expect it to have fallen off the radar a lot sooner.
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote: There seems to have been a fair amount of shill voting on that article to counter the fact that so many people voted it 1
Not from what I can see when I view the logs.
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Chris Maunder
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I am getting not trusted security certificate warnings trying to login to CP. Windows XP SP2 w/IE 7.
Thanks.
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Well, they are a pretty disreputable lot.
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This seems hit and miss and doesn't seem restricted to a single server. I've asked our IT specialist to dig in and see what's happening.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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I too got this certificate security error.
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(using Firefox 3.6.12)
There are no tab UI (that contains Articles, Technical Blogs, Tip/Tricks, ... ) on the main page.
All sections are just listed sequentially.
It seems to be working fine with Chrome and IE8
Max.
Watched code never compiles.
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We've upgraded our jQuery UI script to a new version and it could be that your browser hasn't bothered to grab the new version. Pateience, or Ctrl+F5, will fix the issue.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Chris Maunder wrote: Pateience, or Ctrl+F5, will fix the issue.
I Ctrl F5 no about 200 times, still the same for me too. Works ok from home...
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Can we move this[^] thread to the "Hall of Shame" - it certainly belongs there!
Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together.
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Ah, cut him some slack, he's an accountant for Christ's sake not a programmer.
On the other hand...
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Slacker007 wrote: he's an accountant
"and consequently too boring to be of interest..."[^]
BTW: Before anyone gets snarky, it's a quote, not a personal slight...
Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together.
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