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Chris Maunder wrote: Luc, Hans and John are all giving us a hard time about it
That is not fair, it hardly ever happens, the three of us ranting on the same subject. Especially since Hans is nowhere to be seen. Can I submit a motion to substitute Sandeep?
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Sandeep doesn't have the straight-to-the-bone impatient dismissal of Hans, nor his overwhelming charm and wit.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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We're all different; I'm sure he has lots of qualities of his own, we just may have to help him discover which ones work best for you.
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just thought you'd like to know that the links in your email blasts and from the site don't work. i originally thought the problem with clicking the links from the email messages was because i wasn't logged in to my Code Project account. but i did that today, and the same error occurs whether i am clicking the link in the email or from the website. that's unfortunate, because i am interested in some of the links that are presented.
here are the ones from today that fail (i.e., messages says site requires login):
10,000 Books & Videos, 15 Days, $0 – With your library in the cloud, get unlimited access to Microsoft technology titles for 1 low monthly price – .NET 4.0, Visual Studio, C#, SharePoint, WPF, Silverlight, Exchange 2010 – Microsoft Press, O’Reilly, Addison-Wesley & more. Try 15 Days on Us + Save 15%
Get a Windows Azure One Month Trial Pass to create an application on Azure! You could win an Xbox 360 with Kinect or $1000 cash. Learn more now.
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Craig Sonntag
Strategic Implementations Officer
Klais & Company, Inc.
1867 West Market Street
Akron, Ohio 44313
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Can you please email me the links you're using? I've checked them in my mailout, logged in and not logged in (and they all get checked before they are sent) and they all work quite nicely for me.
Which mail client are you using?
Me email: chris at codeproject
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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I am running Outlook 2007 & IE 8. i am receiving the Daily News as an email w/ HTML. the links i tried to click on are right under the INSIDER banner, in the advertisements section. when the page tries to open, i get HTTP 403 forbidden message. i get that message on all three ads. this issue is not limited to todays message. other daily news have exhibited the same problem, which is why i tried to login today to see if that was the issue.
THANKS .... Craig
TEXT IN EMAIL
10,000 Books & Videos, 15 Days, $0 – With your library in the cloud, get unlimited access to Microsoft technology titles for 1 low monthly price – .NET 4.0, Visual Studio, C#, SharePoint, WPF, Silverlight, Exchange 2010 – Microsoft Press, O’Reilly, Addison-Wesley & more. Try 15 Days on Us + Save 15%
PAGE THAT OPENS IN IE
http://a.lakequincy.com/c.ashx?channel=1&country=XX&placement=7292&creative=6717&publisher=495&zone=64&
TEXT IN EMAIL
Get a Windows Azure One Month Trial Pass to create an application on Azure! You could win an Xbox 360 with Kinect or $1000 cash. Learn more now.
PAGE THAT OPENS IN IE
http://a.lakequincy.com/c.ashx?channel=1&country=XX&placement=7357&creative=6804&publisher=495&zone=65&
TEXT IN EMAIL
DevForce: Data without the Hassle of Writing Plumbing
Focus on higher-value requirements and UX. Save time and complete business applications faster. Huge performance boost, full LINQ support from client, client-side cache and more. Download Now.
PAGE THAT OPENS IN IE
http://a.lakequincy.com/c.ashx?channel=1&country=XX&placement=7158&creative=5499&publisher=495&zone=66&
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just as a follow-up, links in the other parts of the email such as INDUSTRY NEWS & DEVELOPER NEWS & CODE PROJECT DISCUSSIONS works just fine.
is it because these other links are ads??
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Hmmm, I can see that link. Usually, even stuff I want to see gets blocked by the network setup here at my work. Will have to tell IT about this new URL to block. 
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Hiren Solanki: Dude
Sandeep Ramani: hi
Hiren Solanki: Hows going ?
Sandeep Ramani: great..
Hiren Solanki: k.
Sandeep Ramani: hey i hv written one article on codeproject but it not published yet..
Sandeep Ramani: how to get it publish fast..
Hiren Solanki: it will be published after mentors approves that.
Hiren Solanki: will point you on your mistake first.
Hiren Solanki: so what is title of article.
Sandeep Ramani: how i get to know that whether mentor is looking in article or not..
Hiren Solanki: you will get views count increased.
Sandeep Ramani: article status is : This is an unfinished article
Sandeep Ramani: why so?
Hiren Solanki: when you wrote?
Sandeep Ramani: Last Updated: 2 Sep 2010 Page Views: 6
Sandeep Ramani: http://www.codeproject.com/KB/scripting/SortingTableColumnsJQuery.aspx
Sandeep Ramani: r u able to see it ??
Hiren Solanki: This is an unfinished articleit means .. article is small enough to be published.
Hiren Solanki: just put it in tip/trick.
Sandeep Ramani: ok..
Hiren Solanki: and tell me.
Sandeep Ramani: tip/trick.???
Sandeep Ramani: category of the article??
Hiren Solanki: No.
Hiren Solanki: Article - > post tip & trick.
Hiren Solanki: copy your HTML of article into that.
Hiren Solanki: and delete the article.
Sandeep Ramani: ok..
Hiren Solanki: posted?
Hiren Solanki: 8-|
Sandeep Ramani: nop..
Hiren Solanki: K.
Sandeep Ramani: will do tomorrow..
Hiren Solanki: sure.
Sandeep Ramani: its bit confusing for me now..
Hiren Solanki: what is confusing ?
Sandeep Ramani: why i need to post article in tips / trick there should be some category of that..that i have nt seen any guide line regarding that..
Hiren Solanki: your article is too small so it can't be allowed to be published.
Hiren Solanki: so just put that as a tip/trick.
Hiren Solanki: and inside tip/trick you can put it in category.
Sandeep Ramani: but that should be prompt while i post that also..i was nt aware abt this.. i was thinking that it will take some time so i was waiting for that.. they should prompt author that yr article is small to publish so do this steps..
Hiren Solanki: thats why they told you.
Hiren Solanki: article is unfinished.
Hiren Solanki: either make length of article bigger.
Sandeep Ramani: this status is shown to me while i was editing before publishing it also..
Sandeep Ramani: so how come i know ..
Hiren Solanki: ya that mean the same.
Hiren Solanki: while publishing duplicate i also having same issue.
Hiren Solanki: and i posted it in tip/trick.
Sandeep Ramani: wht ever but i m not happy with this process of publishing article..
Hiren Solanki: will take time to be familier.
Sandeep Ramani: i have nt find this type of criteria any other site ..
Sandeep Ramani: that is also right.
Hiren Solanki: in CP they only allows quality articles.
Hiren Solanki: it should have enough information.
Sandeep Ramani: that is true... but i have also find lots of article that do not have any meaning also..
Hiren Solanki: may be informative.
Sandeep Ramani: ok..
Hiren Solanki: ok. you will love CP.. but takes time.
Hiren Solanki: Thats what i was feeling before.
Hiren Solanki: when i got rejected my first article.
Sandeep Ramani: i dont think so.. right now i hate to do all this..there should be easy process for posting article..whether thy publish or reject our article that is secondary part..but posting must be easy to understand..
Hiren Solanki: ya, i have seen lots of people doing same args. for CP.
Hiren Solanki: and CP is working on that.
Hiren Solanki: chris maunder(cp owner) is aware of that.
Sandeep Ramani: good..
Hiren Solanki: 
Hiren Solanki: Let me publish whole Talk to code project.
Sandeep Ramani: do that so that they can get to know about this ..
Hiren Solanki: ok.
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I just had a look at the article. It's still in composing state. Until unless your friend does not publish it, it won't be sent to CP Mentors for review such that they can approve.
There is nothing wrong from CP side.
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You know, sometimes, it is ALRIGHT to paraphrase. A wall of text hitting the face isn't exactly pleasing.
...byte till it megahertz...
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This is a little hard to parse so correct me if I'm making some wrong assumptions here.
The issue seems to be that if an author posts an article that is too small then it won't be accepted by the members who will ask that the article be posted as a tip instead. This in itself isn't the issue - the issue is that the guidelines aren't clear enough on this point.
Is that the problem? If so, that's easy.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Chris Maunder wrote: Is that the problem?
That's what I inferred from reading the chat-conversation twice.
I suppose when someone tries to submit a really small article (word count), you could ask them if perhaps they want to post it as a tip-trick instead.
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Chris,
I don't think it's the issue of Article/Tips. Looks like the guidelines are not followed and above all, it's status is still in "Compose Mode".
Don't forget to Click on [Vote] and [Good Answer] on the posts that helped you.
Regards - Kunal Chowdhury | Software Developer | Chennai | India | My Blog | My Tweets | Silverlight Tutorial
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I think the discussion was posted to convey the difficulties new authors face when posting articles. I didn't have too hard a time when I posted my first article, though there are areas where some improvements would be nice. Here are some random suggestions off the top of my head:
- Don't require an email for updates to an article once it's been approved and such.
- Make it extremely obvious that the article is not published, and the reason for that. For example, a repeating background image on the article that says "this article is not yet published because you didn't click [Publish] yet" or "this article has been published but is not viewable by most members because no high ranking members have approved it yet".
- When a user is about to publish an article, check the amount of text and pop up a dialog that says "this article isn't very long; would you like to publish it as a tip/trick instead?" Clicking "OK" would then post it as a tip/trick.
- Would be nice to be able to change the type of article from "Full Article" to "Tip/Trick" (or the reverse). Probably should only give the author that ability.
Like I said, I'm fairly happy with the process, but some of that might help other members. Then again, making it difficult may keep the article quality higher than if any old person with 5 seconds on their hands could post an article. Based on that observation, I think there should be a CCC that must be solved in order to publish an article. 
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aspdotnetdev wrote: Don't require an email for updates to an article once it's been approved and such.
This is only for "edited" articles and is in place to save the sanity of the editors. However, I know it tests the patience of authors, so we have workarounds. More improvements coming.
aspdotnetdev wrote: Make it extremely obvious that the article is not published
I have just, not 2 seconds ago, done this (though not as garish!)
aspdotnetdev wrote: When a user is about to publish an article, check the amount of text and pop up a dialog that says "this article isn't very long; would you like to publish it as a tip/trick instead?" Clicking "OK" would then post it as a tip/trick.
How about a different approach: on the first page of the submission wizard I have a "post a tip" and "post a full article" link set?
aspdotnetdev wrote: Would be nice to be able to change the type of article from "Full Article" to "Tip/Trick" (or the reverse). Probably should only give the author that ability
This is on the TODO list
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Chris Maunder wrote: so we have workarounds
Interesting. Such as?
Chris Maunder wrote: More improvements coming.
Excellent.
Chris Maunder wrote: I have just, not 2 seconds ago, done this
Excellent.
Chris Maunder wrote: How about a different approach: on the first page of the submission wizard I have a "post a tip" and "post a full article" link set?
Sounds like a good idea.
Chris Maunder wrote: This is on the TODO list
Excellent. I'll look forward to it in 2020! 
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Is there a forum about testing? Tools, how to, best practices, ...
V.
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There is one[^] that has "Testing" in its title.
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I did see that one, but beta testing and testing the code (unit, stress, performance, regression, ....) isn't really the same thing. eg. I'm running some load tests with VS 2010 and have a problem, which forum do I go to?
V.
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V. wrote: which forum do I go to?
When none of the forums seem to fit, try the Lounge.
The forum I linked to isn't very old. It was called "Collaboration and test" once; Chris added "beta". It never has been popular.
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lounge came to mind, but "testing" comes close to "programming" ... hence my question here. Don't worry I'll figure my problem out; somehow.
V.
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You could also post in "Application Lifecycle", however I haven't seen any real activity there yet.
I don't think you would get lynched when posting in the Lounge, especially as the weekend is near.
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Two days ago I discovered the forum message pinning was functioning again, after a long period of unavailability. Yesterday and today, it again fails to perform its magic. Please fix this, it is a great feature to have when a thread grows.
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