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Eddy Vluggen wrote: The database itself doesn't version the procedures,
Another argument against using stored procedures.
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The database does not version any objects [Tables, Views, Triggers, Functions and Stored Procedures]; so using your argument, should we avoid databases altogether?
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SilimSayo wrote:
PIEBALDConsult wrote: Another argument against using stored procedures.
The database does not version any objects [Tables, Views, Triggers, Functions and Stored Procedures]; so using your argument, should we avoid databases altogether?
It's not the non-versioning that's bad, it's sproc's. PI isn't saying that the database should do versioning, he just found an argument against sprocs. Like the argument or not, inline Sql usually gets backed up with the source.
Yes, some people will prefer sprocs. I prefer whatever my client pays me to, as it's kinda easy to switch between the two.
Yes, we can start a religious argument on the topic, but that shouldn't be part of the answer. How 'bout the lounge?
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A database is for data; not code. Use a code base for code.
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Indeed... So all those big database vendors must have been damn to include programming(coding) capabilities.
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this is a newbie question:
I'm trying to download and install Microsoft SQL Server Express 2008.
When I search the Net (MSDN included), i see several listings and variants of the name:
1) MS SQL Server Express 2008
2) SQL Server 2008 R2 Express
3) SQL Server Management Studio Express
4) MS Server 2008 R2
others...
Is there a difference between 1) and 4)? (32/64 bit variations??)
3) SQL Server Management Studio Express look good as an "all-arounder" (manage users, etc...) Would you recommend?
* What is the most current Microsoft SQL Server?
* What is the most current FREE Microsoft SQL Server?
Thank you for helping me understand this.
Regards,
JJM
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You should get SQL Server 2008 R2 Express WITH SQL Server Management Studio 2008 R2 (SSMS).
See here : http://www.microsoft.com/express/database/[^]
Choose the right version (32/64).
Cheers
I don't like my signature at all
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I was tending toward the "SQL Server Management Studio Express", but then was reading the WiKi for Microsoft SQL Server:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_SQL_Server[^]
I will be using PowerShell at some point and some users are accustomed to working in Unix world with scripts (hence the PowerShell).
PLUS, i think we're doing our development on the cheap (FREE version required).
Does your suggestion still fit the bill?
Thanks so much!
John John
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Yes.
SQL Server is the service needed to access your databases. The express editions are the free versions of it. There are limitations, for instance a 10GB maximum of data.
SSMS is a management tool to perform maintenance on your DB's (located on various servers). Without it you're condemned to commandline tooling, nothing wrong with that but tedious for adhoc tasks.
AFAIK Powershell is a prerequisite for SQL Server.
For developement there is VS Express, also with limitations compared to the paid product.
Cheers
I don't like my signature at all
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I think Express has a 4gb limit on the size of the database. Not generally a problem if you are aware of it!.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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R2 has an increased limit (I hear).
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Yes, that's the one to get.
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I agree with Estys that SQL Express R2 is the one to get, but I wanted to answer the question you had.
The difference between 1 and 4 is that 4 is the MS Service 2008 R2 operating system and not a database. It is the OS for a server.
Steve Maier
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Cool! Thanks. I was thrown some loose requirements and some info on past configuration (maybe misquoted the past configuration, server/service,....)
I am installing this on a Windows Server 2008 R2 64-bit system. Eventually, i'm going to be adding some features to integrate MS Access 2007, Visual C++ (Studio 2008 Ed) code, some stored procedures (which i think are created/reside in my C++ generated executable), PowerShell.
Thanks all for the input and advice.
Regards,
John John
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Hi All,
If I have two tables both with a varchar(50) field called Name how do i get just James2 to return?
Table 1 has one record 'James' and Table 2 has two records 'James' & 'James2'.
I've tried all the JOINS but I just cannot get this to work:
SELECT dbo.Table_2.Name
FROM dbo.Table_2
RIGHT JOIN
dbo.Table_1
ON dbo.Table_1.Name = dbo.Table_2.Name
I'm such a SQL Dunce!! Help!
Cheers,
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add:
Where dbo.Table_2.Name = 'James2' ?
Scott
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Do a left join on the name and filter where table2.name is null
Select *
From Table1 T
Left Join Table2 T2 on T.Name = T2.Name
Where T2.Name is NULL
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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Hi all,
I am looking at ways to automate the process of getting data from SQL Server 2008 into an Excel (2007) spreadsheet. I would like to set the value of a cell in the spreadsheet to the result of a SELECT COUNT query.
Is this possible?
Regards,
Anthony
modified on Thursday, August 26, 2010 5:21 AM
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anthasaurus wrote: Is this possible?
Yup. Start here[^] 
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Greetings,
Apologies if this is a dumb question but I'm afraid my SQL knowledge is a little limited. Anyway I am using SQLCE as I don't need anything bigger at the moment but I have a problem when processing the following command
INSERT INTO [Contact]
([Name]
,[Tel]
,[Mobile]
,[Email])
VALUES
(N'Name'
,N'Tel'
,N'Mobile'
,N'Email');
SELECT @@IDENTITY AS ContactID
My problem is that although this functions correctly when issued by hand, my encapsulation of OLEDB only seems to permit a single command. Now this is the only occasion when I need to issue multiple commands so it seems a shame to have to mess up my existing code just for this instance.
So can anyone suggest how I might merge the above into a single command that INSERTs and gives me the ID of the inserted data?
Or is there a simple way with OLEDB & MFC that I can process multiple recordsets without adding too much overhead.
Any thoughts or suggestions would be appreciated.
Many thanks
Alan
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Here is what I've done in the past ...
SQLtext = "Insert .... blah blah
Select scope_identity()"
' This returned the identity column value that was just created.
ID = sqlCmd.ExecuteScalar()
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It should be possible as two separate commands, each encapsulated in their own SqlCeCommand class. An ExecuteScalar on the second select, re-using the connection of the previous command.
I are Troll
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Sorry if this seems a dumb question but could this be integrated into the ACCESSOR class mechanism I am using at present? I have geared everything to use accessor classes which is working fine for everything but the INSERT operations.
It is just annoying because I know the insert is working but it does not give me back the ID of the item that was inserting. So when I came across the @@IDENTITY I thought I was sorted and as the INSERT does not return any results it looked like I could bunch the commands into the same accessor. Life is never as simple as I expected it to be 
Alan
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Spawn@Melmac wrote: could this be integrated into the ACCESSOR class mechanism I am using at present?
I have no idea what an Accessor is; a bit of explanation and some code would be nice.
Spawn@Melmac wrote: So when I came across the @@IDENTITY I thought I was sorted
That should return the last identity, and it should be possible to execute two SqlCeCommand[^] consecutively.
Something similar to the code below;
using (var con = new SqlCeConnection(connectionString))
using (var cmd = new SqlCeCommand())
{
con.Open();
cmd.Connection = con;
cmd.CommandText = "INSERT ...";
cmd.ExecuteNonQuery();
cmd.Parameters.Clear();
cmd.CommandText = "SELECT @@IDENTITY";
object recordId = cmd.ExecuteScalar();
}
How does an Accessor work? Is it used to execute query's?
I are Troll
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