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if i get your question right
If you drop a table that is used in a view will it still work? the answer is no you will get binding error
if you then recreate said table? then yes the view will work.
hope that answers your question
Marc Clifton wrote: That has nothing to do with VB. - Oh crap. I just defended VB!
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The question is will I have to drop and create each view again?
Thanx,
>>>-----> MikeO
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i create a test script to try out your question and i didn't have to recreate the view.
but you will have take into account indexes etc.
Marc Clifton wrote: That has nothing to do with VB. - Oh crap. I just defended VB!
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I have created scripts for the indexes and triggers. The list of dependents is quite long though, so I don't want to create too much of a mess.
Thank you for running the test. I should have thought of that.
Thanx,
>>>-----> MikeO
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Do you just want to get rid of all records in that table? Then try a TRUNCATE TABLE query.
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What I am trying to do is find out why a query that used to take 10ms is now taking 3 seconds to return a record set. I was hoping that dropping and then creating the table again might fix whatever had changed. There are only about 7000 records in the table most of the time, so a query should not take that long.
I have followed up on this thread with a new question:
A-tale-of-two-queries[^]
If you have any insight on 'Audit Login' I would appreciate hearing about it.
Thanx,
>>>-----> MikeO
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We have a 3rd party billing app for storing meter readings that uses a version of SQL Server 2003 for saving the data. Over the weekend it reached its limit - 4 or 5 GB - and can no longer accept new data. The vendor claims that it's not possible to free up space by deleting old records, but I find it hard to believe that we can't even execute a query to delete old records manually.
Is this true? Does SS2003 lock everything once it hit its hard-coded limit?
"A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"
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Roger Wright wrote: The vendor claims that it's not possible to free up space by deleting old records
That is hard to believe; you may not be able to shrink the files, but most of the internal space must become available for reuse within the database.
I'm no DB expert, and have never "filled" a database before; but whatever database you use, this is bound to work:
- stop the application
- create backup 1
- remove garbage and old records no longer needed
- create backup 2
and now either compact database
or, harder but my preferred way:
- delete database
- create new database
- populate from backup 2
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I'm not participating in frackin' Q&A, so if you want my opinion, ask away in a real forum (or on my profile page).
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I think you're right, but unfortunately I can't get access to the DB myself, and the others who have access know nothing about databases except how to follow instructions from a phone support desk. I suspect that it would take me about 20 minutes to solve this if they'd let me in.
I actually found it using Management Studio from my desk, but it won't let me log in... 
"A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"
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If you can't do anything about it, it is not your problem.
Whatever becomes impossible due to the situation will result in a consistent "can't do that due to database problems" reply. It will sort itself out eventually. Even management gets in check with reality on occasion.
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I only read formatted code with indentation, so please use PRE tags for code snippets.
I'm not participating in frackin' Q&A, so if you want my opinion, ask away in a real forum (or on my profile page).
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If there is no room to create the log of the transaction then you can't execute any transactions that would require logging (with is everything be default). So you would have to do some more drastic things like truncating tables using the with nolog hint to prevent logging. Or you free up space in the transaction log. Shrinking Transaction log[^]
It isn't from Metretek is it? If so, do they still use the ridiculous 60 hourly columns table format for meter reads
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Nope - It's Hunt Technologies/Landis & Gyr Command Center. When it was TurtleWare I could make it jump through hoops on command, but since the upgrade I've been kept away from the details.
It would have been nice of them to include a warning about the space remaining in the software they provided...
"A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"
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Roger Wright wrote: It would have been nice of them to include a warning about the space remaining in the software they provided...
It's actually called gross incompetence and should be punished - terminally.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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I agree, but we already have rather a lot invested in meters, and these systems are very proprietary; we can't change vendors without replacing every electric meter in the system.
"A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"
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Roger Wright wrote: Does SS2003 lock everything once it hit its hard-coded limit?
SQL Server - NO.
SQL Server Express/CE/MSDE - YES (at 4 gig).
Perhaps you need to migrate from SQL Server Express to the full version. 
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That seems to be what's installed, since it has locked itself. Tech Support claims to have a fix, but coincidentally, we just received a new server and they want to install it there. Since we have to read meters on Thursday, this might get interesting. Happily, I'm on vacation next week so it won't be my problem. 
"A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"
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Hi All,
This is the code i am running..
BACKUP DATABASE [Outbound_Vodafone]
TO DISK = N'\\dataserver\Database\Outbound_VodafoneDifferential_9PM.bak'
WITH DIFFERENTIAL , INIT
This path is already shared to my domain user login.
But I am getting this exception..
Msg 3201, Level 16, State 1, Line 1
Cannot open backup device '\\dataserver\Database\Outbound_VodafoneDifferential_9PM.bak'. Operating system error 5(Access is denied.).
Msg 3013, Level 16, State 1, Line 1
BACKUP DATABASE is terminating abnormally.
Please help!!
Regards,
Amandeep Singh
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Which version are you using (it looks like one of MS SQL). If you are using SQL 2000 you may not be allowed to backup to a different system.
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I am using SQL server2005!!
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Have you try this?
BACKUP DATABASE DatabBasename
TO DISK = 'C:\BackUp\databasenamebackup.bak'
WITH FORMAT;
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Please understand i want to take backup's on some other server, not on the local.
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Instead path of localhost give path in which you are trying to backup database.
I Love T-SQL
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That's what i am doing dear!
See the
BACKUP DATABASE [Outbound_Vodafone]
TO DISK = N'\\dataserver\Database\Outbound_VodafoneDifferential_9PM.bak'
WITH DIFFERENTIAL , INIT
but it's not working.
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I really don't know much about this, but the access denied message suggests the backup is trying to do something on that disk that is restricted by permissions. You say that this disk is shared to your login, but are you sure that you have full access control on it; can you read and write and create directories etc?
It's time for a new signature.
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Sometimes I have the same problem on some clients servers.You need to ensure that the account, SQL server is running under, has the appropriate access rights to the shared network partition.  .
[EDIT]
I'm not sure but I suppose that SQL server should better be running under Network service built-in account.
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modified on Tuesday, May 25, 2010 4:46 AM
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