Re: Strength of MSAccess 2007. - Database Discussion Boards

Wayne Gaylard5-Mar-10 22:20

5-Mar-10 22:20

Hi guys, I hope you can help me with this query. Maybe because it is saturday morning I can't seem to work this out. I have 2 tables, Sales and SalesDetails. To simplify things say the Sales table consists of ID, and InvoiceDate, and SalesDetails consists of ID, Quantity, SaleID, ProductID. Now I want to return a list of the total daily sales for a specific month for a specific product, i.e. 01/03/2010 - 5, 02/03/2010 - 10 etc. Hope someone can help

Re: SQL Query

Mycroft Holmes6-Mar-10 2:42

Mycroft Holmes

6-Mar-10 2:42

Try this

SELECT
	SaleDate,
	SUM(Amount)
FROM SalesDetail SD
	INNER JOIN Sales S ON S.SaleID = SD.SaleID	
WHERE SaleDate BETWEEN ThisDate AND ThatDate
GROUP BY SaleDate

Tricky bits will be if you have store time component in your SaleDate, you will need to strip the time off.

You can also use the month/year component of the SaleDate instead of the between but it is messier.

Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH

Re: SQL Query

Wayne Gaylard6-Mar-10 6:25

Wayne Gaylard

6-Mar-10 6:25

It worked. Thank you muchly. The dates are stored with no time component, so that was not an issue. The final SQL came out thus:

SELECT 
    s.InvDate, SUM(sd.Qty) as Amount 
FROM SalesDetails sd 
    INNER JOIN Sales s ON s.ID = sd.SaleID 
WHERE s.InvDate BETWEEN DATE(dteStart) AND DATE(dteEnd) 
AND sd.ProdID = ProductID
GROUP BY s.InvDate;

Re: SQL Query

Mycroft Holmes6-Mar-10 11:53

Mycroft Holmes

6-Mar-10 11:53

I'm curious, what database are you using as this does not work on SQL Server

DATE(dteStart)

Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH

Re: SQL Query

Wayne Gaylard6-Mar-10 14:30

Wayne Gaylard

6-Mar-10 14:30

Hi I am using MySql, querying it from VB.Net. deStart and dteEnd are VB variables. MySql does not like VB date variables, and so it is best to convert to date in your SQL Query.

Strength of MSAccess 2007.

priyamtheone5-Mar-10 20:18

priyamtheone

5-Mar-10 20:18

Hi,
I have a few questions. First of all, what's the flexibility and strength of MSAccess 2007 and how much data and transactions can it support?

Second, I would like to know whether it's optimum to use MSAccess 2007 as database for a small banking system, provided it's a real life application and not a demo/tutorial one. The system will have approximately 250-300 customers per year and their daily transactions for the whole year that'll count upto 1,10,000.
If MSAccess isn't optimum then which light version DBMS can I use? How about MySQL or something else?

Third, is there any light version for MSSQL server that fits into my scenario, for almost all the MSSQL versions I have seen are developer/enterprise editions?

Regards
Priyamtheone

Re: Strength of MSAccess 2007.

Jörgen Andersson6-Mar-10 0:06

Jörgen Andersson

6-Mar-10 0:06

The strength of MSAccess is that it has a builtin GUI, a small footprint and xcopy deployment.
The weakness is that it doesn't scale, I wouldn't recommend it for more than ten concurrent users.

I would instead start with either Oracle Express edition or MS SQLServer Express edition. Both are for free, in both cases the biggest limitations are: won't use more than one processor, 1 GB Ram, and max DB size is 4GB.
This limits you less than you might think and both options are easy to upgrade.

"When did ignorance become a point of view" - Dilbert

Re: Strength of MSAccess 2007.

Mycroft Holmes6-Mar-10 2:37

Mycroft Holmes

6-Mar-10 2:37

I'm not sure about the 2007 version but Access was NOT a multiuser, it worked OK as a mutliuser DB until it didn't and when you asked for support from MS they would stand on the disclaimer that it is NOT multiuser.

Definitely use the Express versions (I use MSSQL but that is because of my skill set) and set up a proper client server environment. MSSQL is reasonably easy to set up and very easy to work with.

Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH

SqlConnection - to keep around or dispose

treefirmy5-Mar-10 18:49

treefirmy

5-Mar-10 18:49

Imagine an app that where modification of values in the GUI are immediately updated to a SQL database.

Given this scenario, would you still open and dispose of a SqlConnection object for each update? My guess would be yes because the real connection to the database should be managed via connection pools.

Any rationale for either tactic would be greatly appreciated.

Re: SqlConnection - to keep around or dispose

Eddy Vluggen6-Mar-10 1:24

Eddy Vluggen

6-Mar-10 1:24

treefirmy wrote:
Any rationale for either tactic would be greatly appreciated.

I'd open it just before the Connection is used, and close it as soon as I'm done with it; Take a look at tip #3 on Connection Pooling[^].

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Is there a way to change a column property in a table without having to delete the entire table?

tonyonlinux4-Mar-10 8:43

tonyonlinux

4-Mar-10 8:43

I have a database that holds information including isbn numbers for books. I discovered that the isbn is not specifically a 10 digit number it can actually have a character in it so i need to change it to an nvarchar but when i try to do so it says i can't that the table needs to be dropped. Surely I don't have to delete the table and reenter thousands or records just to change that property or do I?
Please help thanks.

Re: Is there a way to change a column property in a table without having to delete the entire table?

Luc Pattyn4-Mar-10 9:05

Luc Pattyn

4-Mar-10 9:05

if you can't change a field, perform these steps:
- add new field (with a new name)
- copy data from old to new field
- delete old field
- optional: rename new field

You can perform these interactively, using SQL Sever Management Studio, PHPmyAdmin, or whatever fits your database.

Smile | :)

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Re: Is there a way to change a column property in a table without having to delete the entire table?

tonyonlinux4-Mar-10 9:19

tonyonlinux

4-Mar-10 9:19

wow that worked perfectly. Luc i can't thank you and the other's enough for all your help you have given me. Hopefully one day I will be able to help others and return the favor in which you have given me.
Thanks again.

Re: Is there a way to change a column property in a table without having to delete the entire table?

Tim Carmichael4-Mar-10 10:18

Tim Carmichael

4-Mar-10 10:18

Someday saying thank you... that rated a 5!

Encrypt/Decrypt Password Field in Sybase

MWRivera4-Mar-10 5:42

MWRivera

4-Mar-10 5:42

Hi All,

I ran into an issue when trying to Decrypt a password field that I had previously encrypted and was hoping someone could help. I'm using SQL Anywhere 10.

I encrypted the password field with no issues, using the following trigger when a new record was added to the table:

ALTER TRIGGER "encrypt_new_user_pwd" BEFORE INSERT
ORDER 1 ON "QAS"."tableName"
REFERENCING NEW AS newPwd
FOR EACH ROW
BEGIN
Set newPwd.pwdField = ENCRYPT(newPwd.pwdField , 'key')
END

The problem is I'm unable to decrypt the password of the newly created record (fieldID = 0002), using the following:

SELECT CAST (DECRYPT(pwdField, 'key') AS VARCHAR(100))
FROM "QAS"."tableName" WHERE fieldID = '0002'

In Sybase when trying to execute the above statement I get the following error:

Interactive SQL
The following error occurred while fetching results:
Decryption error: Input must be a multiple of 16 bytes in length for AES
SQLCODE=-851, ODBC 3 State="08001"

Do you have any idea what's causing this error?

The pwdField is of type VARCHAR and size 15.

Thanks,
Mel

Re: Encrypt/Decrypt Password Field in Sybase

David Skelly5-Mar-10 2:06

David Skelly

5-Mar-10 2:06

This is just a guess but if you read the error message it says:

MWRivera wrote:
Input must be a multiple of 16 bytes in length for AES

But you say:

MWRivera wrote:
The pwdField is of type VARCHAR and size 15.

Is 15 a multiple of 16?

Make pwdField bigger and see if that helps.

Re: Encrypt/Decrypt Password Field in Sybase

MWRivera5-Mar-10 9:08

MWRivera

5-Mar-10 9:08

Hi David,

Thanks for the reply. I changed the length of the field to 16 and this stopped the error message from displying, the only problem then was the password was showing up as squares. I then changed the length of the field to 80 (5x16=80) sticking with the multiple of 16 rule and it works great now.

Thanks for your help with this it lead to me working it out. The reason I was recieving squares I asume is because the encrypted version of the password was larger than 16 and so the full encrypted version of it was too big to fit in the password field, therefore when I tried to decrypt it, it wasn't all there to decrypt and hence the nonsense squares.

Thanks again,
Mel

Help on using Transaction

Saiyed Alam4-Mar-10 5:00

Saiyed Alam

4-Mar-10 5:00

Hello friends,

which is the better way to use transaction?
From Database
or from Application?

Re: Help on using Transaction

Not Active4-Mar-10 5:45

Not Active

4-Mar-10 5:45

There is no answer to this, it depends on many factors

I know the language. I've read a book. - _Madmatt

design a database to store an expression tree [modified]

deostroll4-Mar-10 2:06

deostroll

4-Mar-10 2:06

Hi,

I need some help with the database design for storing an expression tree. It should basically store a whole expression.

I'd want to query out data (in one or more result sets as necessary) so that I can finally evaluate it somehow in my front-end application. Just kind of need a table(s) structure to store and represent the relationship.

The expressions I plan to store in the database will be mostly logical expressions. Meaning they'd evaluate to a true or false mostly.

Here is a diagrammatic representation of what I want (as a result set(s)).

modified on Thursday, March 4, 2010 8:31 AM

Re: design a database to store an expression tree

Mschauder5-Mar-10 2:45

Mschauder

5-Mar-10 2:45

Hi,

I often use trees and what you essentially needs is the ID and Parent ID

for example:

ID | ParentID | Name
1 | 0 | A
2 | 1 | AA
3 | 1 | AB
4 | 0 | B
5 | 4 | BA
6 | 4 | BB

looks like:

[]
|
-A
--AA
--AB
-B
--BA
--BB

and so on...

... I hope you mean this D'Oh! | :doh:

ADO.NET Batch Update

MB_KSU3-Mar-10 11:59

MB_KSU

3-Mar-10 11:59

I am using VB.Net 2008 and ADO.Net to do a Batch Update to our Oracle database.
The updates are working, but there is a trigger on the table before the row is updated to enforce a member's termination termination date.
So if I was trying to set the termination date (via the batch update) to 31-Jan-2010 but the member had a claim that was processed on 2-Feb-2010 the trigger would force the termination date to be 2-Feb-2010.
However, the trigger is NOT executing when the batch update runs?

Re: ADO.NET Batch Update

Mycroft Holmes3-Mar-10 21:32

Mycroft Holmes

3-Mar-10 21:32

I would guess that triggers are disabled for batch updates then, probably as a database default. This is a sensible idea, you do NOT want triggers firing in volume and you should be managing your data not relying on a trigger. I hate the bloody things, always causing trouble, hiding under the hood and causing issues bah!

Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH

Re: ADO.NET Batch Update

MB_KSU4-Mar-10 3:56

MB_KSU

4-Mar-10 3:56

Good idea. I'm not a DBA so do you know for sure if there is an admin option that disable a trigger for batch updates?

Re: ADO.NET Batch Update

Mycroft Holmes4-Mar-10 11:14

Mycroft Holmes

4-Mar-10 11:14

MB_KSU wrote:
do you know

No idea, especially on Oracle

Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH

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