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No problem Chris.
Thank you. ![Rose | [Rose]](https://www.codeproject.com/script/Forums/Images/rose.gif)
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Post a Forum Answer = A member receives points for answering a question in a programming forum = 10 pt
in a programming forum such as C#, does this apply:
a) to first-level answers only to a top-level question?
b) to any reply with an "answer" icon (and thus offering good answer/bad answer votes)?
c) to any reply, including those with a "general" icon (and offering 1-to-5 votes)?
d) none of the above
whatever it is, shouldn't the replies that don't count for authority count for participation?
Luc Pattyn [Forum Guidelines] [Why QA sucks] [My Articles]
I only read code that is properly formatted, adding PRE tags is the easiest way to obtain that. [The QA section does it automatically now, I hope we soon get it on regular forums as well]
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Thanks for pointing this out. We're looking into it.
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total rep looks much better now; still not sure what happens to a cascade of replies, which by default get flagged as question - answer - general - general - ...
do 5-votes on "general" also count for authority?
if not, shouldn't those generals be answers by default?
Luc Pattyn [Forum Guidelines] [Why QA sucks] [My Articles]
I only read code that is properly formatted, adding PRE tags is the easiest way to obtain that. All Toronto weekends should be extremely wet until we get it automated in regular forums, not just QA.
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Luc Pattyn wrote: do 5-votes on "general" also count for authority?
Nope they count toward organiser.
Luc Pattyn wrote: if not, shouldn't those generals be answers by default?
I wouldn't say so. A lot of times what happens is a discussion breaks out. Of course, the author always has the option of setting their message as a question, answer, etc.
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Luc Pattyn wrote: Most often, it is not so much a discussion, but an elaboration on question and answer
I'd have to disagree. Just looked through a bunch of programming forum messages and noticed that a high percentage of them are discussion-oriented. But, yes in some cases a general message is really an answer or question. This results in the reputation being a little off but it's better to err less by assuming most messages are general/discussion. 
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you should only look at the serious ones, the ones that accumulate votes, not the off-topic ones.
By not properly awarding fived replies that are deeper in the message chain, you will discourage people; the net result may be shorter threads, or less chaining, more top-level branching. When a reward system is in place, you get more of what you reward, and less of what you don't reward.
Alternative suggestion: can I get a choice as to what type my non-header message should default to?
(preferably different for different forums, maybe just programming versus non-programming)?
Probably a bug: I think when I edit a fived message in order to change its type, the reputations are not adjusted accordingly.
 Luc Pattyn [Forum Guidelines] [Why QA sucks] [My Articles]
I only read code that is properly formatted, adding PRE tags is the easiest way to obtain that. All Toronto weekends should be extremely wet until we get it automated in regular forums, not just QA.
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Luc Pattyn wrote: you should only look at the serious ones, the ones that accumulate votes, not the off-topic ones.
Is there an algorithm we can use to determine which messages are off-topic?
Luc Pattyn wrote: can I get a choice as to what type my non-header message should default to (preferably different for different forums, maybe just programming versus non-programming)
Sorry Luc - while I understand this would save you having to click a radio button, the effort involved is not justified considering our current laundry list of things we're trying to improve.cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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I had a couple of thoughts on the Quick Questions/Answers, but I don't frequently read the site bugs and suggestions so I'll apoligize right away if you've already had these comments or if you've already posted reasons why things are they way they are.
First of all, there was a post in the lounge discussing the Accept Answer. I'd noticed that sometimes questions had a different border/style and sorted to the top which was very helpful. I only have one question out there and I actually answered it myself. When I look at the question I do not see anything that allows me to mark it as the Accepted Answer. Perhaps that is because I'm the original question poster?
My second thought about Quick Questions/Answers is this. Sometimes I read a question and think I can help the person but need more information, so I either type a possible answer while asking for more info or post a comment on the question. The problem is that later I have trouble finding these posts again to see if the original questioner has responded. When we look at the My Posts and then choose to look at Answers, could we be provided more information about the actual question? Like who originally posted it, and who/when it was last updated, and how many answers it currently has? I think that would be helpful. Or somehow mesh in the concept of being emailed everytime the question is updated like the message boards do? Or if not email (because that can get annoying sometimes) some other notification? Or is something like this already there and I'm just not seeing it?
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Kschuler wrote: Perhaps that is because I'm the original question poster?
Correct 
Kschuler wrote: The problem is that later I have trouble finding these posts again to see if the original questioner has responded.
We'll address this with a subscription mechanism that's now high on our priority list.
Kschuler wrote: When we look at the My Posts and then choose to look at Answers, could we be provided more information about the actual question?
I'll bring this up with the team.
Kschuler wrote: Or is something like this already there and I'm just not seeing it?
Again, subscription system we'll be implementing will address it. Not in place yet.
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is trolling in the lounge.
“Follow your bliss.” – Joseph Campbell
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And the voting system has taken care of business.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Disagree. He still gets his great big flame war threads even if the initial idioting is killed off eventually.
The only time voting was ever able to kill a troll off that fast was when Teh Developer went nuts while you were on vacation; even then we were blighted by a mess of Message Automatically Deleted stubs cluttering up the place.
3x12=36
2x12=24
1x12=12
0x12=18
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Dan Neely wrote: The only time voting was ever able to kill a troll off that fast was when Teh Developer went nuts while you were on vacation; even then we were blighted by a mess of Message Automatically Deleted stubs cluttering up the place.
For the benefit of anyone not around at the time, keeping anyone from flaming him before the messages were deleted and making the mess even worse required that they be killed in a few minutes. This probably resulted in about a dozen people refreshing the first page of the lounge every two or three minutes to hammer the vote to remove function. Hardly an efficient use of our time.
3x12=36
2x12=24
1x12=12
0x12=18
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If people must respond, then they should respond off topic and derail any ranting. It's hard to get a serious rant going when others ignore you - just watch the way that kids react when you ignore their huff.
"WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.
My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Onyx
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I completely agree with you.
Instead of ignoring his post, people removed it (it was a boring topic, but there was no abusive or unacceptable content in it). After which he repeated posting the same drivel like a kid, which got removed repeatedly too. This is just irritating.
“Follow your bliss.” – Joseph Campbell
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote: just watch the way that kids react when you ignore their huff
So what is your favourite cheese?
Panic, Chaos, Destruction.
My work here is done.
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Nagy Vilmos wrote: So what is your favourite cheese?
A cracking bit of Wensleydale Gromit.
"WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.
My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Onyx
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I printed out an article to read over the weekend and when reading it noticed that all code blocks longer than a page are truncated at the end of the page. This is the same issue that was discussed in this post[^], but I am not using Adobe to save the articles as pdf. I have a Dell Laser Printer here, but I can't imagine that the printer would affect the way the page looks in the print preview so long as the page size is the same. The article I was trying to print is WPF : If Carlsberg did MVVM Frameworks Part 2 of n[^]. The problem can be seen on Page 6 where the code snippet is stopped at the end of the page in print preview. Looking at the HTML it appears to be a problem where the PRE tag contents are not wrapped to a new page and I found a blog post here[^] that has a section on making PRE tags print across pages if that helps at all.
Thanks
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Waw. Quite a post.
Luc Pattyn [Forum Guidelines] [Why QA sucks] [My Articles]
I only read code that is properly formatted, adding PRE tags is the easiest way to obtain that. [The QA section does it automatically now, I hope we soon get it on regular forums as well]
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Excellent suggestion. It will be in place today.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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This post[^] in the new articles page seems to be repeated on a monthly basis. It looks like someone submitting time sheets, so perhaps it's one of the CP employees who has lost his/her way, or some automated system that has gone wrong.
MVP 2010 - are they mad?
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Thanks. Sorted.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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