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putting the legend inside the graph allowed for a larger graph, which most of the time results in a much clearer view of the rep evolution.
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IMO turning the legend's background to white, instead of transparent, could improve such graphs.
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That would solve the issue of New members' graphs[^].
White looked so boring though. How about something off-white?
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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we can't have boring.
which off-white do you have in mind?
the alternative would be to fiddle with the vertical scale:
- pick the total reputation at 30 or 50% of the x-axis (i.e. just to the right of the legend)
- set twice that as the minimum for the rep range (so in the first 30/50% of the graph the top half is free for the legend).
For most people, that would not affect things; people having a very flat reputation graph would see the
graph somewhat compressed. It would fail if and only if rep went up, then strongly went down again.
modified on Wednesday, January 6, 2010 9:40 AM
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Luc Pattyn wrote: which off-white do you have in mind?
Unfortunately I spent my break alternatively popping cold and flu medication and painting my bathroom (an excellent combination: fumes and medication) so in my head I have "burnt snow", "persephone mist", "pasturised almond" and whatever ridiculous names paint manufacturers come up with for their colours. How about tooltip yellow?
What if the graph were top center? Or - what if it were top or bottom and laid out horizontally?
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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How about making the graph fit the user's browser window width? Is that possible?
Or maybe make the graph a silverlight control.
Another note: I don't think the month needs to be included in the legend since the grid lines only show year delineations.
.45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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modified on Wednesday, January 6, 2010 10:09 AM
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The graph is an image, so doesn't stretch. However, if we can get it to render as Flash then we have some possibilities.
Silverlight would be interesting, but Flash is still more common.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Chris Maunder wrote: Silverlight would be interesting, but Flash is still more common.
Well, CP is a Microsoft technology oriented web site.
.45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001
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We started that way, but for a long, long time we've been spreading our wings.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Maybe you could hold a contest for both a silverlight and a flash solution - let the guys that use the site do some of the work.
In fact, you could even then put a setting in the user profile where we could select whether we wanted flash, silverlight, or standard html stuff for special site features.
.45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001
modified on Wednesday, January 6, 2010 10:27 AM
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Chris Maunder wrote: popping cold and flu medication and painting my bathroom
yes, "Tamiflu mint" would be an excellent choice.
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That's kinda offwhite, with flecks of green goo, right?
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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you must have it around already, just spread it out evenly if you can.
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Chris Maunder wrote: green goo
your green goo turned out to be rather pinkish, but IMO it will do; however any color closer to white will improve the correlation between color samples in the legend and trace colors in the actual graph.
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that background is the best yet.
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I only read code that is properly formatted, adding PRE tags is the easiest way to obtain that. [The QA section does it automatically now, I hope we soon get it on regular forums as well]
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Why can't you just draw the legend outside of the graph (the image size should be increased in which case). Or, the legend can be a separate, image "outside" (to the right of?) the actual graph, because it is static and isn't going to change at all.
“Follow your bliss.” – Joseph Campbell
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No. Noooooooooooooooooooo!
That is how all this started in the first place.
You won't get a large graph, somewhere out there still is a CP veteran with a 640*480 monitor.
Lets keep things simple, it is fine the way it is; the legend having an offwhiteish background
would be more than adequate to solve whatever small problem is left. There must be more important matters around.
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But, if the image doesn't stretch... why some graphics are ok, and some are zoomed out (smaller [i.e. mine])?
Regards.
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If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpfull answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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As I see it, the reputation graph is 750 * 350 pixels for everybody, with the x-axis going from day of signing up till today, and the y-axis going from 0 to your current total reputation value. Nothing gets zoomed or stretched, it is a simple autoscaling.
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At that moment I was seeing some rep. graphs ok, and other (including mine) were half sized. But it now is ok another time.
Regards.
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M.D.V.
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpfull answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Thats one way to get rid of stupid questions, I supose!
The page header shows "Msgs 1 to 50 of 285,422 (Total in Forum: 285,422) (Refresh)" but only two messages other than the sticky pair are displayed. Hope you have a backup!
All those who believe in psycho kinesis, raise my hand.
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Looks fine for me (so the data isn't gone  )
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I can see 4. 4 / 285,426 - something's not right.
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There is definately something odd going on here: If I open two instances of the c# forum in two tabs as quickly as I can, the members online count differs by 2K, or 11K, or whatever it feels like really! And I can't believe that 10% of us are online at the same time...I mean, then pubs are open somewhere in the world, aren't they?
All those who believe in psycho kinesis, raise my hand.
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Just getting the fire extinguisher out, so you'll see some weirdness as things to-and-fro a little.
There is also some cashing caching to contend with. As sessions are brought under control different servers will have different values.
Edit: cashing -> caching. But if anyone wants to send cash my address is...
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
modified on Tuesday, January 5, 2010 4:25 PM
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