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Mycroft Holmes wrote: the warning would be a little redundant
Now I disagree. Too often I've seen code (not mine!) that would run say 10 times faster by commenting out the progress bar, sometimes making it so fast a progress bar doesn't make much sense any more. Remember, with the Invoke in place, a thread switch could easily dominate the bulk of the loop code.
Seems some people lack a feeling for normal and abnormal speed.
[EDIT]The article has been updated.[/EDIT]
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Totally agree with you. You don't have to update the progress bar unnecessarily. 
BTW, I used to use BeginInvoke than Invoke when I need to update the controls. This executes as an asynchronous call and won't block the worker thread until progress bar is updated.
Best wishes,
Navaneeth
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yes, you have told me that before; I did not react on it then, other than start thinking about it. So I did, and I decided not to change my ways.
Of course I do agree you can use BeginInvoke, and it has the advantage of not blocking the worker.
However it does not really fit my "canonical form", where a single method can be called from the GUI thread as well as any other thread. If I were to use BeginInvoke there, it would be a synchronous method when called from the GUI thread, and asynchronous when called from another thread, which would probably be very confusing.
The same point, in other words, is: I prefer asynchronous operations to be obvious from their name, so "Begin" or "Async" should be part of the method name, which then wouldn't be possible in my canonical form.
Another, minor, issue might be: I do not like the idea of a lot of GUI work piling up somewhere, as this (1) would consume memory nobody is aware of, and (2) will consume a lot of CPU cycles even after the worker has finished.
Of course, if the net result would be fewer thread switches (I should perform an experiment), then it would have its merits.
And finally, I just added to the article a remark about avoiding frequent progress bar updates; having them synchronous should make it easier for the programmer to notice something is going wrong in that area.
If and when I do some experiments on this, I'll let you know the results.
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Luc Pattyn wrote: Of course, if the net result would be fewer thread switches (I should perform an experiment), then it would have its merits.
I don't think BeginInvoke has this advantage over Invoke as both are doing the same API call internally. All it does extra is to run the method in a separate thread to get asynchronous nature.
Luc Pattyn wrote: If and when I do some experiments on this, I'll let you know the results.
Thanks. I will be very much interested to hear from you.
Best wishes,
Navaneeth
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Luc is correct, the right way to do this is to do the operation in another thread and make that thread report back the progress to the GUI thread so it can update progress bars or whatever. This is exactly what the BackgroundWorker component was designed for.
Dave
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The easiest way is to write Application.DoEvents() inside the for loop. This will allow the application to process its message queue and update the Progress bar, but the downside is that your loop can become slower by upto 10 times (or even more).
Using a BackgroundWorker is the most appropriate choice for background activities. It runs your code in a separate thread which allows your main thread to process other messages and update the GUI.
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calling Application.DoEvents() is dangerous; for one it risks a StackOverflowException. I do not recommend it unless I am sure the programmer knows the internals of the Windows messaging system (in which case he probably does not need any advice and wouldn't have asked the question at all).
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Yes, I know that. I just wanted to give an heads up on why his GUI remained unchanged when his main thread was processing a loop.
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I would like to add that when DoEvents is called, your GUI becomes "alive" in the middle of the process and your user can click buttons and create unstable UI states.
It also seems like calling DoEvents inside a loop may decrease performance to the ground depending on your loop code.
When using threading and UI make sure to use Invoke and BeginInvoke properly to avoid dead locks or racing/overflowing
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Wrong target, I know these things and am reluctant to use DoEvents().
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Hi!
I understand now, that I was a bit naive about my question.
After a bit of thought, I guess using the BackgroundWorker is indeed the best solution.
In future, I will definitely give more thought to the general division of GUI and program from the start,
not only in the sense of separating the code (what I already did in not using GUI elements to store data etc.) but also in the sense of separating code execution to avoid such deadlocks. Although that means having some kind of state-machine in the GUI to handle the asynchronous working (in most simple cases just 2 states, busy and idle).
A shame that C#/Visual Studion/Runtime lib do not clearly enforce such a separation.
Or is there a framework to enforce(!), not just enable, this ?
Thanks for the discussion, Rolf
modified 2-Aug-18 21:02pm.
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I tried my best to Normalize the tables but someone suggested me there is something wrong.
Could anyone please help me out.
COURSE[CourseCode, CourseName]
INSTRUCTOR[InstructorNumber, InstructorName]
CLASS[CourseCode, ClassCode, InstrNo, InstrName, CourseStartDate]
ENROLLEMENT[CourseCode, ClassCode, StudentNumber, StudentName,Grade]
Relationships: The relationship I have defined are as below.
Instructor and Class tables: 1 to many.
Class and Course: 1 to many
Thanks
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Take it to the database forum... at least.
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Hi , have a good day
I hope I can Help
Try this SQL Query
SELECT COUNT(Student) FROM table1 WHERE year = 2009
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Hello. I'm having some problems about comparing two pictureBox. I want the other one to be invisible when they have the same image but when I tried it didn't have any changes. How can I do that? Me and my groupmates are creating a game similar to mystery case files: prime suspect and I'm the one who is creating the two player mode. The purpose of making the visible property of the other pictureBox is to let the players know that they already found the image we're asking for them to find but until now I can't still do that. Please help me.
Here's the code I tried to use, this is just one of the pictureBox i want to compare to the other pictureBox:
private void picBoxRandom1_Click(object sender, EventArgs e)
{
if (picBoxPlayerOne1st.Image.Equals(picBoxRandom1.Image))
{
picBoxRandom1.Visible = false;
PlayerTwo();
}
if (picBoxPlayerTwo1st.Image.Equals(picBoxRandom1.Image))
{
picBoxRandom1.Visible = false;
PlayerOne();
}
}
picBoxPlayerOne1st is the pictureBox where the asked image is being shown while the picBoxRandom1 is the pictureBox where the right image is shown. Both pictureBox have random images.
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Image.Equals does a reference comparison and it will always return false since they may be pointing to two different Image objects in memory, even if you loaded them from the same file.
You can achieve this behavior by setting a flag during the loading of these images into the picture boxes by checking if they are loaded from the same file.
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Oh, i forgot to say that the images that the two pictureBox get came from an imagelist.
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The problem is that the PictureBox.Equals method[^] is inherited from object, and is a reference test (as PictureBox is a reference object). What that means in English is that Equals compares the references (in C or C++ that would be a pointer) rather than comparing them bit - by - bit. If the pointers are to different ememory, then the Equals test will return false even if the two images are bitwise identical. You will have to do a bitwise comparison to check they are realy different.
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How can i do the bitwise comparison if the images i get came from an imageList?
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The same way as if they came from anywhere else
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As Harold says, same way as anything else: iterate through the bytes of the image and compare! Won't be quick though!
The MD5 suggestion is not bad - it should be quick, and it will identify non-identical pictures. It could however give false positives. If this is a game, then I assume you have a limited number of different pictures? Take the MD5 hash of each of them and modify the pictures to ensure they all have different MD5 hashes. Then use the MD5 to identify whether the picture is the same, or not. Moves the processing work to offline, so it doesn't become noticable at run time.
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I used a code that uses memorystream so i can save the image to a specific location then convert it to base64String and use that location to compare the two images. I think it does the work i want so i think i'm okay with that. I'll just use the md5 hash code as a backup in case something goes wrong..anyway thanks for the suggestions
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If you already have the image as a MemoryStream, then why go to all that bother? Isn't it simpler to use
byte[] bytes = ms.GetBuffer(); and then compare the two buffers directly?
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Does the MD5 Hash Code Work for you ?
MD5 is embedded in C# .NET
try to get hash for the two images
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