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Hi Oliver,

First, my sincere thanks for responding. I have delayed answering because I wanted to look further into this and do some testing.

As you can see from the following, you can have different permissions for the same NTUser Account:

2009-03-26 17:12:51.6832 TestVista.Form1 Captured the ------------ BUILTIN\Users
2009-03-26 17:12:51.6832 TestVista.Form1 IdentityReference.Value: BUILTIN\Users
2009-03-26 17:12:51.6832 TestVista.Form1 AccessControlType: Allow
2009-03-26 17:12:51.6832 TestVista.Form1 FileSystemRights: FullControl
2009-03-26 17:12:51.6832 TestVista.Form1 InheritanceFlags: ContainerInherit, ObjectInherit
2009-03-26 17:12:51.6832 TestVista.Form1 IsInherited: False
2009-03-26 17:12:51.6832 TestVista.Form1 PropagationFlags: None
<-->
2009-03-26 17:12:51.6832 TestVista.Form1 Captured the ------------ BUILTIN\Users
2009-03-26 17:12:51.6832 TestVista.Form1 IdentityReference.Value: BUILTIN\Users
2009-03-26 17:12:51.6832 TestVista.Form1 AccessControlType: Allow
2009-03-26 17:12:51.6832 TestVista.Form1 FileSystemRights: ReadAndExecute, Synchronize
2009-03-26 17:12:51.6832 TestVista.Form1 InheritanceFlags: ContainerInherit, ObjectInherit
2009-03-26 17:12:51.6832 TestVista.Form1 IsInherited: True
2009-03-26 17:12:51.6832 TestVista.Form1 PropagationFlags: None
2009-03-26 17:12:51.6832 TestVista.Form1 Captured the ------------ BUILTIN\Users
2009-03-26 17:12:51.6832 TestVista.Form1 IdentityReference.Value: BUILTIN\Users
2009-03-26 17:12:51.6832 TestVista.Form1 AccessControlType: Allow
2009-03-26 17:12:51.6832 TestVista.Form1 FileSystemRights: AppendData
2009-03-26 17:12:51.6832 TestVista.Form1 InheritanceFlags: ContainerInherit
2009-03-26 17:12:51.6832 TestVista.Form1 IsInherited: True
2009-03-26 17:12:51.6832 TestVista.Form1 PropagationFlags: None
2009-03-26 17:12:51.6832 TestVista.Form1 Captured the ------------ BUILTIN\Users
2009-03-26 17:12:51.6832 TestVista.Form1 IdentityReference.Value: BUILTIN\Users
2009-03-26 17:12:51.6832 TestVista.Form1 AccessControlType: Allow
2009-03-26 17:12:51.6832 TestVista.Form1 FileSystemRights: CreateFiles
2009-03-26 17:12:51.6832 TestVista.Form1 InheritanceFlags: ContainerInherit
2009-03-26 17:12:51.6832 TestVista.Form1 IsInherited: True
2009-03-26 17:12:51.6832 TestVista.Form1 PropagationFlags: None

This at first confused me immensely but your comments and my searching has helped me understand a lot more. First, explicitly set permissions override inherited permissions, deny has precedence and cannot be later overridden and that the permissions are (at the end of the day) effectively amalgamated when it comes to NT allowing or denying an action.

What I am still working on is when are the permissions effectively updated? For example:

If I change the permissions on a folder with the proper propagation flags, do the files that are already contained within the folder (or should that read container!) get the new inherited permissions immediately or does each file already in the container need to have these new permissions specifically set?

What's prompting this questioning is that my installer (InstallAware) applies permissions set by me correctly but not in Vista notwithstanding that the installer has elevated privileges. I know - ask InstallAware however they are less than helpful to novices at the best of times!).

Regards,
Glen.

Glen Harvy

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