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I think if you do a search you will find *many* discussions about this issue here in the past. Indeed about many other such longstanding irritants and problems such as the univoting in message boards, the lack of a faq/wiki, ability to post snippets instead of full articles etc etc.
I have a suspicion that new features are a priority over fixing the many (*many*) longstanding core issues with this site, a pattern I've noticed very much akin to open source projects.
"It's so simple to be wise. Just think of something stupid to say and then don't say it."
-Sam Levenson
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John C wrote: I have a suspicion that new features are a priority over fixing the many (*many*) longstanding core issues with this site, a pattern I've noticed very much akin to open source projects.
Like Visual Studio... oh, right. 
---- You're right.
These facts that you've laid out totally contradict the wild ramblings that I pulled off the back of cornflakes packets .
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It seems the univoter hit you. I 5'd to compensate.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001
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Please don't vote for me either way. I've boycotted voting messages for quite some time now due to it's sheer silliness of how it's being used and I simply ignore the votes anyway because they have become entirely meaningless.
"It's so simple to be wise. Just think of something stupid to say and then don't say it."
-Sam Levenson
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I think any user should be able to vote on an article, but - well - I've already described my idea for the ultimate solution.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001
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I think it is quite easy to track down those univoters. If a user has voted 1 for more than 5 articles and is bronze then he shouldn't be able to vote any more until he becomes silver.
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Giorgi Dalakishvili wrote: If a user has voted 1 for more than 5 articles and is bronze then he shouldn't be able to vote any more until he becomes silver.
And, optionally, we may cut his head.
If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler.
-- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong.
-- Iain Clarke
[My articles]
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I agree that people should have to obtain a certain level before being able to vote on articles, but how to determine the level is the bigger question.
If the level is based on the number of posts, then people will simply flood the lounge with drivel in order to increase their vote count, and, hence, their ability to vote.
I would suggest having a level per area: general messaging forums, programming forums, and articles.
Then, you can't vote on ANYTHING until you've reached silver or whatever the title is called in that area. If I can't vote on articles until I've posted 200 messages in the articles area, I will probably spend more time there.
Just my thoughts...
Tim
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in which case the idiots will post spam all over the article forums to get their ratings up, and be far more likely to get away with it especially if they find dead articles to abuse. WE've only managed to muzzle one forum flooding troll with the abuse button and that took concerted efforts of a large part of the lounge to pull off.
Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots.
-- Robert Royall
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I think this is an excellent idea. I am strongly in favor of letting everyone vote, but limiting the voting (on articles) to silver and above is not too much of a restriction, and it is clear that there are now several univoters operating here.
Someone else has suggested that if a member 1-votes several published articles in the space of a day, his membership should be reviewed by CP staff for possible suspension. Weeding out some of these idiots would go a long way to improving the quality of life here. First-time authors seem to be especially troubled when their article gets 1-voted.
Note: I am only talking about voting on articles.
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Hans Dietrich wrote: First-time authors seem to be especially troubled when their article gets 1-voted.
I must be odd. I am not troubled by my article receiving a few 1 votes. It is only a book review about a book that I enjoyed and think that others may find useful. There are parts of it that could have used a little more meat to it, but I sure do not lose any sleep over it.
"The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer
"Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon
"Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham
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I still think numeric votes on articles should be eliminated and replaced with an all-or-nothing system, where the user has the choice to either vote an article as useful, or not mark the article at all. That would *completely* nullify the efforts of uni-voters and revenge voters.
Maybe a new selection can be added as well, called "I used this code". If someone uses the code (in part or in full), they could come back to the article and mark it as such. This particular "vote" would not be able to be rescinded since using the code is, well, using the code.
Maybe factoring in the number of average views per month and the number of times the article has been bookmarked would be sufficient to serve as a respectable indicator of an article's worthiness. We could call it the "Bob Factor".
In any case, something has to be done about the article voting system - NOW.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001
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I just came across this little gem from CPallini:
bool isLeapYear(int year )
{
return year % 400 ? year % 100 ? year % 4 ? false : true : false : true;
}
It would be nice to have a place where one can post small functions or even single lines of code which provide elegant/cool/efficient solutions.
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Good idea 
cheers,
Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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Thanks.
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I second that as a good idea. Would be nice to have something like that to complement the Coding Horrors forum.
"The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer
"Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon
"Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham
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Once the forum is implemented, there should be a filter across all messages and whenever a source code is encountered, an option like 'Clip to Cool Code' is to be presented. Due source courtesy can be given to the original author and also the clipper.
Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
Personal Homepage
Tech Gossips
All the world's a stage,
And all the men and women merely players.
They have their exits and their entrances;
And one man in his time plays many parts... --William Shakespeare
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When he could have done it this way?
using System.Globalization;
public bool IsLeapYear(DateTime date)
{
return CultureInfo.InvariantCulture.Calendar.IsLeapYear(date.Year);
}
public bool IsLeapYear(int year)
{
return CultureInfo.InvariantCulture.Calendar.IsLeapYear(year);
}
While clever, his code is fraught with maintenance issues, where the method I've posted is in the .Net framework (not to mention offering overloads that accepts a datetime or the year itself).
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001
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Pretty much every compiler understands his code. Your code requires .NET (some people still use VC6).
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Michael Schubert wrote: some people still use VC6
Preposterous! If MS ever found out, there'd be hell to pay! Of course, your response is quite reasonable.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001
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That's why we need Cool Code forum. We can discuss these kinds of topics there 
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OK, but does the Mayan calendar have leap years?
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oooooooh! Good question!
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001
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I did a double take - honest!
My Profile[^]: Member since Friday, January 06, 2006 (2 years, 9 months)
Another member's profile[^]: Member since Friday, December 30, 2005 (2 years, 9 months)
Is 2 years and 9 months as much as Bob can count to?
Actually, balls to that. It's vicious pedantry at its worst, and something |I hate about myself.
Ahoy!
Martin Hughes
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Looks like the rounding of the months is a little off.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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