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Uhmm. I have a problem. The two values are MILES APART and I can't find a calculator powerful enough to compute the percentage increase.
Value 1 = 1.36 x 10^58
Value 2 = 2.36 x 10^19,709
Is there any mathematical technique or approach to simplify this?
It is said that the most complex structures built by mankind are software systems. This is not generally appreciated because most people cannot see them. Maybe that's a good thing because if we saw them as buildings, we'd deem many of them unsafe.
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Ian Uy wrote: Value 2 = 2.36 x 10^19,709
Is there any mathematical technique or approach to simplify this?
The rules for addition/subtraction/multiplication/division of scientific notation are not difficult. Here is an article on Scientific Notation[^] which covers how to multiply and divide powers of ten. Here is another one[^] which also covers addition and subtraction.
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Yeah, I already did that before asking. However, I am not sure if its correct.
To subtract value 1 from value 2, I need to move value 1's decimal point (19709-58)=19651 times to the right? this will produce a relatively small number. And if I subtract that small number to value 2, the result will not be different. It is still 2.36 x 10^19,709. Right?
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Ian Uy wrote: this will produce a relatively small number. And if I subtract that small number to value 2, the result will not be different. It is still 2.36 x 10^19,709. Right?
Pretty much. Consider your numbers.
Value 2 = 2.36 x 10^19,709
There are about 1.0 x 10^80 atoms in the known universe. If we discovered that there were actually a billion other universes out there, there would still only be 1.0 x 10^89 atoms in all of them combined. So your number (2.36 x 10^19,709) is what would be known in the mathematical community as "big... really big."
Relatively speaking (compared to your first number)...
Value 1 = 1.36 x 10^58 ...is really, really small. Pretty much, for all intents and purposes, practically zero.
So your question boils down to something like, "If I take all the matter in the in the known universe -- every tree, every person, every planet, every sun, every black hole contained in all 100-billion known galaxies -- and manage to sneeze into a parallel dimension, what percentage did I decrease the weight of the universe? And you would still be way off from your example.
Enjoy,
Robert C. Cartaino
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Comparing the larger number to the smaller, it is (2.36/1.36)*10^19651 larger. 10^19728 is just less than 2^64K. This can be expressed exactly by an extended arithmetic binary number 64K BITS long, or 8K BYTES long, or 2048 DWORDS long.
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Thank you for taking the time to answer my question. I understand it now. 
It is said that the most complex structures built by mankind are software systems. This is not generally appreciated because most people cannot see them. Maybe that's a good thing because if we saw them as buildings, we'd deem many of them unsafe.
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Ian Uy wrote: Value 1 = 1.36 x 10^58
Value 2 = 2.36 x 10^19,709
Is there any mathematical technique or approach to simplify this?
In that case Value2 - Value1 = Value2 accurate to 19,651 decimal places.
Of course, one would have to question whether percentage increase is a meaningful method of displaying the difference.
Peter
"Until the invention of the computer, the machine gun was the device that enabled humans to make the most mistakes in the smallest amount of time."
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Ian Uy wrote: Is there any mathematical technique or approach to simplify this?
Sure!
Given V1 = 1.36 x 10^58 and V2 = 2.36 x 10^19709,
and %Increase = [(V2 - V1)/V1] x 100:
1. (V2 - V1)/V1 = V2/V1 - V1/V1 = V2/V1 - 1
2. V2/V1 = 10^(log V2 - log V1)
3. Subtract 1, then multiply by 100 to get %
so,
1. (2.36 x 10^19709 - 1.36 x 10^58)/1.36 x 10^58 =
(2.36 x 10^19709/1.36 x 10^58) - 1
2. V2/V1 = 10^(log( 2.36 x 10^19709 ) - log( 1.36 x 10^58)) =
10^ (19709.00864 - 58.13354) = 10^ 19650.87510
3. % = (10^19650.87510 -1) x 100.
You're still going to have a hell of a time getting a computer to calculate a number that large, but the use of logarithms reduces the size of the intermediate results to a manageable magnitude.
"A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"
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Roger Wright wrote: You're still going to have a hell of a time getting a computer to calculate a number that larg
I beg to differ, it does not take that long. I made the calculations (I am only reporting the digit count of the various values, but I can report the actual values if desired):
14.984 msec to calculate (14,984 seconds for 1000 loops).
Chars in 10^56 = 57
Chars in 136*10^56 (=V1) = 63
Chars in 10^19707 = 19708
Chars in 236*10^19707 (=V2) = 19714
Chars in (V2-V1) = 19714
Chars in quotient of (V2-V1)/V1 = 19652
Chars in remainder of (V2-V1)/V1 = 63
Chars in quotient of V2/V1 = 19652
Chars in remainder of V2/V1 = 63
Dave Augustine.
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How to implement TREND function of MS Excel in c#.net
thanks
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See, for instance, [^], [^], [^].
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-- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
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Hi ALL
I request some one can help me in generating the different combinations with the given string.
I am having string "ABC" and it need to generate the combinations with the same length string
Example: I am having string like "ABC" and generates Combinations
"ABC"
"ACB"
"BAC"
"BCA"
"CAB"
"CBA"
Same way if I choose 4 length string "ABCD" it should generate like below.
"ABCD"
"ABDC"
"ACBD"
"ACDB"
"ADBC"
"ADCB"
"BACD"
"BADC"
"BCAD"
"BCDA"
"BDAC"
"BDCA"
......should generate sixteen combinations..
length of the string can be dinamic(can be 5 , 6 or more).
Please can some one help me to build algorithm to generate this type of combinations in c#.
Thanks in Advance
Nivas
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SatyaVas wrote: ......should generate sixteen combinations..
There are 24 combinations in this case. It's 4! (4 factorial).
The C++ standard library already contains functions to do this. This code will pull it off:
#include "stdafx.h"
#include <iostream>
#include <algorithm>
void main()
{
using namespace std;
char initial[] = "ABCD";
char *pEnd = initial + sizeof(initial)/sizeof(initial[0])-1;
do
{
cout << initial << endl;
}
while (next_permutation(initial, pEnd));
}
If you look at the source code that implements next_permutation you can easily write a C# version.
Steve
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does anyone have a good formula for calculating azimuth between two city lat and lons
thanks
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winburn wrote: does anyone have a good formula for calculating azimuth between two city lat and lons
Google is your friend. Try the following search terms (without quotes).
formula latitude longitude azimuth
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Good Day,
Given a pseudo code below:
<br />
main()<br />
{<br />
for(int i=0;i<n;i++)><br />
{<br />
x[i]=func1(func2(x[i]));<br />
}<br />
}<br />
<br />
func1(x[])<br />
{<br />
for(int i=0;i<length(x);i++)><br />
}<br />
<br />
func2(x[])<br />
{<br />
for(int i=0;i<length(x);i++)><br />
}<br />
How can I compute for the Asymptotic notation? I know that the loop in main() is O(n) and both func1 and func2 are O(n). But How can I combine the 3? Can I even combine the 3 to get O(N^3)? or it will be just O(3N)?
Thanks!
It is said that the most complex structures built by mankind are software systems. This is not generally appreciated because most people cannot see them. Maybe that's a good thing because if we saw them as buildings, we'd deem many of them unsafe.
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What would be your analysis of this?
main()
{
for(int i=0;i<n;i++)>
{
for(int j=0;j<n;j++)>
{
for(int k=0;k<n;k++)>
{
}
}
}
}
Edit: Ah, better.
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O(n). Right? 
It is said that the most complex structures built by mankind are software systems. This is not generally appreciated because most people cannot see them. Maybe that's a good thing because if we saw them as buildings, we'd deem many of them unsafe.
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How many times do we count to n?
Hint: it's not 3 
main()
{
int count = 0;
for(int i=0;i<n;i++)>
{
for(int j=0;j<n;j++)>
{
for(int k=0;k<n;k++)>
{
count++;
}
}
}
}
If this were a complexity of O(n) then count would be 3n. However it's not, what's the value of count at the end?
I'm not downing you, I'm just trying to help you come to the conclusion yourself.
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hmm. So its O(N^3).
Can you please give a code example that will yield 3N? So I can properly differentiate the two.
It is said that the most complex structures built by mankind are software systems. This is not generally appreciated because most people cannot see them. Maybe that's a good thing because if we saw them as buildings, we'd deem many of them unsafe.
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main()
{
int count = 0;
for(int i=0;i<n;i++)>
{
count++;
}
for(int i=0;i<n;i++)>
{
count++;
}
for(int i=0;i<n;i++)>
{
count++;
}
}
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Ah I see.
Thank you!
It is said that the most complex structures built by mankind are software systems. This is not generally appreciated because most people cannot see them. Maybe that's a good thing because if we saw them as buildings, we'd deem many of them unsafe.
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So as you can see now.
When you nest loops you multiply the complexity.
When you have loops side by side, you add.
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When you say we add, that means N+N+N or simply 3N.
Correct me if I'm wrong but there is no such thing as O(3N) but only O(N)?
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