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I'm weary of using "STABLE" MS software, let alone MS software in the Beta stage 
Regards,
--Perspx
"The Blue Screen of Death, also known as The Blue Screen of Doom, the "Blue Screen of Fun", "Phatul Exception: The WRECKening" and "Windows Vista", is a multi award-winning game first developed in 1995 by Microsoft" - Uncyclopedia
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Okay. I didn't see that and was wondering.
"The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer
"Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon
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AFAIK, you can just download the beta. Don't think you need to register...
I'll save you the trouble though: It's faster than IE7. It's slower than just about every other browser, and some of the faster glaciers. Tabs are hosted in separate processes, except when they aren't. Crashes recover cleanly, except when they don't. Opening new tabs still involves waiting around watching the UI fight with itself for a while before letting you actually use the new tab. There's some new thing - WebSlices - that seems suspiciously similar to some of the "web desktop" stuff from the '90s, except less flexible. And GMail is broken.
Citizen 20.1.01 'The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, 'which is to be master - that's all.'
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Thats odd, the slowness is how i would describe my experience with firefox (pre v3, havent got 3 yet) over IE7.
IE7 opens up almost instantly and so do most pages, and tabs. However firfox seems to take a few seconds more to load and each new tab takes a about a second or two more to load. perhaps this is just me. Im using windows vista x64. perhaps IE7 is just optimised more for that, where it has the opposite reaction on Firefox. I will get v3 soon to see what the difference is.
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Damn, are they ever going to fix that UI tab slowness issue? It's a small thing but it drives me up the wall - totally unnecessary. Glad they're moving towards seperate processes though (even if still flawed).
When you say "Crashes recover cleanly", does this mean that it restarts and reopens the same page? A lot of the crashes I've seen (in earlier versions) have been reproducible most/all of the time on a given page, so I expect to be seeing a lot of infinite loops while it repeatedly finds it's unable to deal with some pages...
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stevio wrote: I expect to be seeing a lot of infinite loops while it repeatedly finds it's unable to deal with some pages...
Yes, that can be a problem. 
Citizen 20.1.01 'The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, 'which is to be master - that's all.'
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Oh well, at least we're supposed to be getting a load of new standards compliance 
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I have a client that wants a simple web site to expose his construction business. He wants basic 'about' information, contact details, and a portfolio of completed contracts. I offered him a cheap one, with maintenance done by me, or a slightly more expensive one with maintenance functions. He chose the former, agreeing rather to pay me when he needs something added or updated.
What are my options in getting something simple out of the door quickly? Are there any template type systems that I can use to get started, even with initial static content, where I can later expand to using a proper CMS later, to add other businesses etc. I don't want the complexities of setting up a full CMS right now.
modified on Monday, August 4, 2008 11:43 AM
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You could install something like WordPress, which is small and easy, and you can then offer the maintenance functions as a bonus.
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www.ewisoft.com
I found this to be simple enough to get something out into the world quickly, and it is free.
There are upgrades for it.
you can get a flash kit to start the site too, that kind of impresses the non tech types.
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"Password Protected? Your dealing with Geeks, just turn it on, type Gandalf and you're in!" - Frankie Boyle
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Have a look here[^].
Just add content.
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Now I'll not get any work done tonight playing with all those options. 
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Been there, done that. Ended up making the homepage myself after all.
But it's a nice source of ideas and code.
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Brady Kelly wrote: Now I'll not get any work done tonight playing with all those options.
and the earlier u make a choice the better
M..X...E
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Try cmsmatrix.com or .org (cant recall now).
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My current homepage isn't a good example because I forgot to do proper indexing but it is completely based of XML files and has the option of allowing Ajax. It uses the smarty template system and xAjax and took all of 5 minutes to do compared with the ASP.NET way.
Need a C# Consultant? I'm available.
Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know. -- Ernest Hemingway
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I only know ASP.NET, so to get at least this first one up quickly, I think the road more travelled will be better for me.
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I won't quote because it is more fun this way.
Need a C# Consultant? I'm available.
Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know. -- Ernest Hemingway
modified on Monday, August 4, 2008 10:29 AM
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Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote: What is it Rober Frost said?
"Put your hands up! This is a robery." ?
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... is if his choice was for the better or not. 
Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots.
-- Robert Royall
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The intonation from the poem was that it was positive but you are correct, his course could have led to an untimely demise of misery and torture and when compared with other of Frost's works like out, out, it is quite possible that he was saying please, by all means take the easy way, look what happened to me taking the hard one. Which would be hysterical because of all of those people with the Poem on their walls.
Need a C# Consultant? I'm available.
Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know. -- Ernest Hemingway
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Hello friends,
I am caught in some problem.
I want to insert <br> tag in a textarea at the cursor position when i click on a button.
for example there is text "hello friend" in the textarea and cursor is between "hello" and "friend" and when i click on the button the text will become "hello <br>friend".
Please help me!
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Take a look at this article.
Hope this helps,
--Perspx
"The Blue Screen of Death, also known as The Blue Screen of Doom, the "Blue Screen of Fun", "Phatul Exception: The WRECKening" and "Windows Vista", is a multi award-winning game first developed in 1995 by Microsoft" - Uncyclopedia
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Hi, im busy making the site: www.fabol.co.za/businesses.aspx.
For the background I am using a div with an so that it will always stretch and fill the width of the screen. The problem is though, that going from one page to another the whole background reloads(loading from top to bottom). I have seen a way in HTML that forces the browser to always reload everything(and not get it from cache), but is there anyway that I can force it to cache in their browser(well, unless they have caching off) so that the background will only have to load once?
Thanks alot!
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As your page is an ASP.NET page, can't you use the caching functions availible?
See this article.
Hope this helps,
--Perspx
"The Blue Screen of Death, also known as The Blue Screen of Doom, the "Blue Screen of Fun", "Phatul Exception: The WRECKening" and "Windows Vista", is a multi award-winning game first developed in 1995 by Microsoft" - Uncyclopedia
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