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I can develop on anything.
And it can run on anything.
HTTP is my platform, my protocol, my channel.
All else is folly.
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You need to have a browser... not every OS have a browser...
So you can't say that "All else is folly".
Don't compete over technology, compete over productivity and end result satisfaction.
Use the right tool for the job.
Cheers,
Alex
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I prefer any server environment to develop because you develop under real conditions that your web application may run under from restrictions and to now what configuration you miss while you develop not when you deploy.
but winXP good that it make your life easer but harder on deployment
wish that .NET development can done under Unix because it is more stable than any windows OS unfortunately.
Whatever you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it
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Mohm'ed wrote: wish that .NET development can done under Unix because it is more stable than any windows OS unfortunately.
You can thanks to the Mono team, but it's incomplete.
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I didn't say that Linux perfect but I wish that windows take more strength that we found in unix os we never see Blue screen.
Whatever you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it
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steveb wrote: ave you seen the core dumps on Unix? Sometimes your machine never boots up again
Unfortunately, the same can be said for Windows. 
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No, instead we get Kernel Panics. Certainly less frightening.
I'd been called 'ugly', 'pug ugly', 'fugly', 'pug fugly' but never 'ugly ugly'. - Moe Szyslak
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Since I got my new laptop... eh... about 10 months ago, I'm using Windows Vista.
I got a ASUS G1S btw.
UAC off... immediately.
Still I didn't like it much... Windows Explorer stopped working a couple of times every day and such... but the overall performance of the computer was greater than the one I had with XP.
The great difference was when I changed the HD to a new WD320Gb, upgraded the memory to 4Gb and on top of that installed Vista x64 Ultimate... now we're talking...
This machine is rock solid now... everything moves without a delay.
I can tell you that as I write it's using 2Gb of memory and it stays around there even if I have few windows opened. I don't care about it, if I have memory I'm infact glat it's being used to make the user experience smoother.
From my experience I take:
1. Vista x64 is no way near it's brother x86... x64 is way more stable and faster.
2. 2Gb of memory is just not enough for this OS, it looks like 2Gb is the minimum it needs to have everything working smoothly... then you can open and close apps without any lag.
3. the new WD 320Gb SATA HD rocks... it even shows its difference on the Vista Ratings.
Cheers,
Alex
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"everything moves without a delay"
You upgraded your system to 4gb ram to get "everything moves without a delay"...? You make me laughing a lot.
Come on... upgrade it to 8gb, get the real power and speed and be real mothah4x0r. 
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Do you think 4gb or ram is a lot?
I don't know what's going on there but here a 2Gb module is really cheap, caused me no pain to buy 2 of them.
Then, and even considering that I couldn't get those 2 extra gigs, what was the alternative?
Install XP?
SP2 made XP a mature OS but I never got it working as fast as I have my current Vista x64.
Next option... Linux...
Yeah, I have a P4 2.6ghz (ASUS L5C laptop) at home.
Recently I did install Ubuntu on it and made it my Home Server delivering SVN repo and PHP/Apache server.
It works great, everything it smooth, the UI is a perfect Windows clone with some extra useless effects, but nothing slows it down except when I need more than the 1Gb I have available on that machine (maximum supported).
Cons... I'm not a Linux guy. It took me some hours to setup this "server".
This whole SUDO stuff and permissions request (like UAC on Vista) and the endless Terminal commands that I don't quite understand (a lot of googling and copy/paste) got be tired and not wanting to touch it again.
On the other hand... my business run on M$ being wither Windows or ASP.net apps, so I always need at least a SQL SERVER 2005 or a IIS around.
Other OS's... Mac OsX... hummmm... I think it even applies less to me than Linux.
The key here is productivity and I'm more productive on Windows OS's, and currently on Vista x64.
If I have to build a top ranking machine to run it I don't care as long as the profit that comes from that investment widely pays it 
BTW, at home I'm switching to XP again, I had enough of that Terminal window 
Cheers mate,
Alex
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"the UI is a perfect Windows clone"
You know... you re real, imba, uber lamer.
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Ok then,
show me one piece of your intelligence cause it's been somewhat hidden 'till now.
Lets see what I can learn from that (your advanced dialect reference) real, imba, uber so called brain.
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You talking things you have no idea about.
If you dont know what uber lama is check www.urbandictionary.com
Anyway u talk like m$ salesman.
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Hey, I'm sorry for being rude above but you're getting on my nerves with those half sentences.
Anyway, I'm not a M$ salesman and I really don't intend to be, I'm a developer and project/team manager.
I'm not here so sell anything, I'm just stating my point of view based on my daily experience.
I really like my current configuration with Vista x64 and I didn't like the previous x86 version.
For me a 4gigs upgrade is nothing compared to what I've gained in performance.
I work with what makes me more productive and for the market my company targets.
I don't force a technology because it's what I know or because it's free, or because it came from M$ or not.
People tend to pick sides and defend their side without even trying or even actually look at the other side (i'm not saying its you).
So I use Windows but I've tried Linux several times for several tasks and I always found it much less intuitive to do a task than on Windows.
I can see from the distros I tried (Ubuntu 7.10 & OpenSuse 10.3) that Linux is much better than it was on the earlier days... much solid and I'm glad for that but you can't force anyone to drop KDE or GNOME and become a console junkie just because it sounds nice when you say. On any high level OS the console should be used mostly for batch processing or specific low level tasks not for trivial tasks like installing an application.
YaST is heading that direction but I feel that the community doesn't like|use it much because it's not the geek way of doing stuff.
Sure I may be missing some important parts of the process and as you said "You talking things you have no idea about", but I'm talking about user experience, I'm not talking about defending sides to death.
Maybe you can better argument your point of view so I can understand what you're talking about when you disagree with me.
Cheers mate,
Alex
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Alex,
Totally agree with you.
I don't have a 4Gb machine and I still don't want to use vista since I'm good with my XP Pro but you made the key point: productivity. And that goes with applications availability, support, literature, programmers communities, tips and tricks and so on.
Unfortunately there's someone who's pissed off because the world doesn't work the way he would like to be and he's not even able to make a real point but talking his lingo.
I know a few guys like him and believe it or not they're still saying stuff like "You can run LINUX on 286!!!" What??? Did you miss the digital revolution or what?
What I always say to those guys is: Stay happy with what you like and do not bother other people just because they don't think like that.
We know we have options out there and we make our choices like you do. Understood?
By the way, I'm really intrigued to try Vista x64 with the configuration you have, we have MDSN here and we have a copy of it, I just have to justify the hardware purchase. I know that XP's days are counted and sometimes it gets slows.
Nice posts,
G.
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It may be hard the justify the hardware upgrade if you're not having any limitations on your tasks.
In my case was a new laptop...
Also, I'm glad to ear someone understanding what I say, it's kind of hard these days 
Cheers mate,
Alex
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Chances are that your vista machine seems better because it's actually a better computer - not because it has Vista on it..
I tried Vista Ultimate x64 (yes, tried) on this computer (4GB 800MHz DDR2 ram, QX6850 @ 3.3GHz, GeForce 8800GTS (640mb unfortunately)) and it was disappointingly slow (after standard tweaks and fixes were applied)
So I use XP Pro x64 now, and I'm concluding that in order to be fast, either Vista needs more than 4GB or better than a 3.3GHz quad core, or it's not possible at all (I can't really blame the 8800GTS, it should do just fine)
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Eish... really?!
Your machine should be way faster than mine as I "only" have a Core2Duo T7500 (2.2Ghz) with 4Gb 667Mhz and a GForce 8600M GT.
What Motherboard are you using (bad MB's jams more a system than anything else)?
Where did you find Vista slow? What did you do with it?
Personally I run 2 or 3 instances of Visual Studio 2005/2008, one Management Studio (SQL Server 2005), Mozilla with a bunch of tabs that usually uses beyond 100Mb... MSN... MS project and other MS Office 2007 apps... Outlook that is very expensive too...
These make my daily desktop, making my memory usage at the moment be 2639Mb
But still I really can't say the system is slow...
Maybe I'll try XP x64 someday from another HD I have just to compare.
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ASUS Striker Extreme
I did "usual stuff", such as using FireFox and Visual Studio and Windows Live Mail..
FireFox pretty much behaved normally, Visual Studio was a bit laggih with some things (such as sliding a hidden toolbox into view)
Explorer was the worst, it was especially bad on my folder with 11k pictures (game sprites) (though it has some new cool features)
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harold aptroot wrote: Explorer was the worst
Explorer is probably the worst thing in Vista...
Although I don't complaint much on x64 the x86 version of it really sucks.
Maybe disabling some features to make it look more like the XP version it will work better... don't know... I think they tried to put to much visual work on it that people would only care about it did actually work!
Now about the VS sliding toolboxes... I never got them to work properly you know.
Along with the Text Editor Lines and the Keep Tabs options I also remove the sliding effects.
This always happened to me on any OS I ever worked on with VS (XP any flavour and Vista Ultimate x86 & x64).
The toolbox starts sliding then hangs for some time (some seconds) and then shows the rest isn't it?
I just disable it... don't care about the cause and don't seek for a cure 
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That's exactly what that toolbox did yes
But it works for me on XP..
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That is just one of "those things"... just disable it, even on XP.
I know this issue since VS 2003 and it happened to me even on XP...
I believe the dock panels are the same since the first VS.
Cheers,
Alex
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The laptop sounds like it would run through one battery after another. How fast does the battery go? I have a dell inspiron 2GB Ram, 160 GB HD and it takes two hours to run down on Vista Ultimate
Regards,
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Yeah... it depends...
It can go from 1h40m to 2h+... usually goes around that.
I don't use it much on a disconnected environment tho...
It goes from home to the office and to the customers where I usually am able to plug it.
I bought it for being a good machine that I can take to wherever I go.
Just to add that more memory wont consume you more power, at least it's not a decisive point.
On the other hand faster HD's will consume more power along with bigger and brighter monitors.
The CPU consumption will also depend on the average amount of usage percentage.
Ah... I also have a USB internet modem (those that work on the cellphones cards) that also burn my battery 
Cheers,
Alex
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