Design and Architecture

led mike22-Jan-08 4:59

22-Jan-08 4:59

Mike Nelson wrote:
I get a trapped error

So you don't think the error message might help us to help you? Is that why you didn't post it?

Mike Nelson wrote:
is published to the German server

Is this an ASP.NET application?

led mike

Mike Nelson22-Jan-08 7:49

22-Jan-08 7:49

This is primarily a desktop application but is published to an ftp site so that each time a user starts the app if there is an internet connection, it goes and searches for updates to the program.

led mike22-Jan-08 7:58

22-Jan-08 7:58

Ok it's a desktop app. that helps. Now what about the error message?

led mike

Mike Nelson28-Jan-08 2:55

28-Jan-08 2:55

Sorry for the delay in responding -- I'm a one man shop and got tied up in an entirely different project. Here's what I get when I step through the relevant subroutine:
First, I get this:

"The source file is different from when the module was built. Would you like the debugger to use it anyway?" The paths shown are:
Source file: C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio 8\CAPS Project\Src 1-21-08\CAPSpro.NET\frmDocManager.vb
Module: C:|Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio 8\CAPS Project\Src 1-21-08\CAPSpro.NET\bin\CAPSpro.exe

Click Yes:

Then a message comes up telling it cannot find the file, showing a path which is the path of the German developer who originally published the program ("The file 'C:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\teg\Eigene Dateien\CAPS\Src\VB2005\CAPSpro.NET\frmDocManager.vb' does not exist.").

On one occasion I was able to change the path to my local machine where I am working on the source code, and the output file was successfully saved. Without the debugger, however, there is no message that the file cannot be found. This only appears when I step through the debugger one line at a time.

led mike28-Jan-08 5:58

28-Jan-08 5:58

Mike Nelson wrote:
"The source file is different from when the module was built. Would you like the debugger to use it anyway?"

Well clicking "yes" to that could cause any number of completely useless things to happen. This messages indicates you don't have a valid development environment for debugging your application.

Mike Nelson wrote:
when I step through

In order to debug you should have the source code and be debugging from a build on your local machine. If you were doing that you should not see the first message about source file being different from the module.

Based on your latests post it seems likely that you are no where near discovering the actual problem. I have no idea how to help you at this point since it seems likely you lack understanding "how things work" that are helpful during debugging efforts.

led mike

Mike Nelson28-Jan-08 7:41

28-Jan-08 7:41

I am debugging from source code on my local machine. The project, however, is a copy from the German developer. We both believe that is probably the source of the error, but don't know if our approach to collaboration on this project is typical or not. He sends me a copy of the code, I make corrections or additions necessary for US localization, test it, then send the code back to him where he recompiles and publishes the project. In this one case, however, trying to create a text file, neither of us understands where the reference to his file path comes from. I was hoping that someone else my have run into this during a similar collaboration.

Thanks, anyway, for your comments.

led mike28-Jan-08 8:42

28-Jan-08 8:42

Mike Nelson wrote:
where the reference to his file path comes from

What about "when" it comes. Based on your posts I am unclear when the reference is used, it seems in your last post there is a reference to source code meaning the reference is a development environment reference.

All the Visual Studio files are in XML form now I believe so you could open them in a text editor and search for the path string in the file.

led mike

Mike Nelson28-Jan-08 9:34

28-Jan-08 9:34

Well, these messages only appear when stepping through the code in debug mode. During normal program execution there is no message, the text file is merely left empty.

I'll take your hint about searching through the files with a text editor. I'm just not sure what file this would even be in.

led mike28-Jan-08 9:51

28-Jan-08 9:51

Mike Nelson wrote:
He wrote a routine to create a text file that we can both use.

Well somewhere in that code the path for the file is obtained or created right? Post that code.

led mike

Mike Nelson29-Jan-08 2:15

Design Patterns References

29-Jan-08 2:15

We finally tracked down the problem. It didn't really have anything to do with the filepath message. That is apparently just a smokescreen -- VB couldn't figure out the problem and popped up that message. The problem was a database one and once we fixed the database, the module works corectly.

I did, also, find the coded reference to the local filepath in Germany. I need to discuss this with my German colleague to determine whether it is necessary or not to be hard-coded.

Thanks for taking the time to look at this.

Free tool for UML

mhmo21-Jan-08 2:42

mhmo

21-Jan-08 2:42

Dear All

Is there a good tool for UML yet free?Or in another way what is the best free UML tool?

regards

Re: Free tool for UML

martinig29-Jan-08 6:46

martinig

29-Jan-08 6:46

You will find a lot of UML tools with many of them free on this url:
http://www.softdevtools.com/modules/weblinks/viewcat.php?cid=54[^]

Re: Free tool for UML

Tristan Rhodes6-Feb-08 2:10

Tristan Rhodes

6-Feb-08 2:10

I discovered StarUML, and have found it very powerful.

http://www.staruml.com/[^]

Regards

Tris

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UML with Visio

mhmo21-Jan-08 2:38

mhmo

21-Jan-08 2:38

Dear all

I am not sure if it is the proper place to put this question.

Can I draw UML diagrams with Visio 2007. If yes, is it built in Visio or a plugin. And how to draw them in Visio?

Best Regards

Mohammed

Re: UML with Visio

Pete O'Hanlon21-Jan-08 3:09

Pete O'Hanlon

21-Jan-08 3:09

mhmo wrote:
Can I draw UML diagrams with Visio 2007. If yes, is it built in Visio or a plugin. And how to draw them in Visio?

You can draw them in plain vanilla Visio. They are under the Software>UML Model Diagram template.

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geekfromindia18-Jan-08 4:58

18-Jan-08 4:58

Hi Frnds,

I am working on learning concepts of Design Patterns these days.

Could you please refer to any good online material? Best would be some video tutorials?

Thanks In Advance.

Geek

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Pete O'Hanlon18-Jan-08 8:48

Pete O'Hanlon

18-Jan-08 8:48

Try this site[^].

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geekfromindia18-Jan-08 9:09

18-Jan-08 9:09

Thats cool site..thanks [thumbs up]

here's another interesting one i found while googling http://sourcemaking.com/[^]

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led mike18-Jan-08 9:14

18-Jan-08 9:14

http://c2.com/ppr/[^]

http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?CategoryPattern[^]

led mike

geekfromindia18-Jan-08 9:46

18-Jan-08 9:46

Thanks Mike...

thats mini wiki for patterns.. i m glad Smile | :)

...

I wish there was a forum where people post their real-time problems and how they found solutions through patterns...

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led mike18-Jan-08 10:03

18-Jan-08 10:03

geekfromindia wrote:
I wish there was a forum where people post their real-time problems and how they found solutions through patterns...

That Wiki is huge and those discussion do in fact exist in it. There is a monster discussion about Singleton Pattern.

led mike

geekfromindia18-Jan-08 10:48

18-Jan-08 10:48

That is a good site. Guess i need to spend lot of time on that...

GET STARTED Geek...

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geekfromindia18-Jan-08 10:51

18-Jan-08 10:51

I wonder, why this forum is so Inactive? Confused | :confused:

We can make a good use of this platform.

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