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darkonoid wrote: i want to use .net platform but my applications can be run windows that isn't installed .net framework
Like I already said earlier. You will need the .net framework installed in order for the apps to work, no real way around it. There are commercial products out there that for the money, just end up encapsulating the .net framework in the .exe. It is really not worth the money. Bear in mind that the .net framework runtime will not work on windows versions older than Windows 98.
I hope this answers your question.
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ok brother, do you recommend any platform for developing application?
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I already told you, if you are going down the .net road, use VS 2005 or 2008.
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 no, no i don't want to use .net 
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With the Standard edition of VS2005/2008, you can do native code using Win32 as well.
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darkonoid wrote: i am using .net c++
You just told me you don't want to use .net. Here you are saying you are using it. Make up your mind, then.
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i use vs2005 platform because environment is capable, but when i run the executable file, it should not related with .net framework.
when i say .net platform, i mention visual studio 2005/2008
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What kind of project are you creating? If you are creating .net projects, then you are stuck with the framework. If you don't want to use the framework, then go with MFC.
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i create mfc applications on visual studio 6.0, but i want to create more quickly and easily. so i use visual studio 2005, however mfc applications needs .net framework on any machines
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darkonoid wrote: however mfc applications needs .net framework on any machines
Not so. MFC and .net are two completely different things.
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Unless you want to be really adventurous and mix the two together 
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i couldn't tell what i want , english is not my native language
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Hi there.
have you try this my friends ?
if your project is an win32 application project !! i think you can use this configuration :
Project menu --> project properties --> configuration properties --> general --> in project defaults group select No Common Language Runtime support for common language runtime support .
your application will never need to .net framework
DMASTER
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That'll work as well. I think the OP wasn't sure exactly what he was going to develop with.
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Let me know about your feedback about my article and application available for download at
http://www.coolapps.net/composite.htm and http://www.coolapps.net respectively.
Application is fully functional and developed in MFC. Download from www.coolapps.net. Part of the source code is also shared.
Trust me, developing a webservice by hand-coding the soap stuff is not trivial, but requires real effort.
mbhat
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mbhat wrote: Let me know about your feedback about my article and application available for download at
http://www.coolapps.net/composite.htm and http://www.coolapps.net respectively.
Application is fully functional and developed in MFC. Download from www.coolapps.net. Part of the source code is also shared.
Trust me, developing a webservice by hand-coding the soap stuff is not trivial, but requires real effort.
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What part of quit spamming does not register?
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How can use the left-hand operator in CPoint class. I was try to this statement.
if((m_ptCenEllipse << m_ptCenRectangle) == 2)<br />
{<br />
m_ptCenEllipse = m_ptCenRectangle;<br />
}
error C2678: binary '<<' : no operator defined which takes a left-hand operand of type 'class CPoint' (or there is no acceptable conversion)
modified 13-Mar-13 6:09am.
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You cannot use that operator, since the CPoint class hasn't it. BTW what you expect that such operator should do in your code?
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Hi all,
I'm writing a game application with a main lobby where players can select a game which opens in a different frame window.
Players can open several games at a time so actually there's only one view that needs to be rendered at a time.
The game loop should respond to key and mouse events using directInput (directX). My question is where do i place the game loop? Should it be in the main application's run method? Should it answer onpaint messages on the currently active view?
Thanks in advnace.
Snir_ya.
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snir_ya wrote: My question is where do i place the game loop?
This is an open ended question as we don't really know your plan. Are these individual games running in their own process space, in a new thread, or what?
Each game (assuming they are independent) should have its own main loop more times than not - even if they have to interact with one another via IPC or whatever.
Also, don't put your main game loop in WM_PAINT for D3D or DD. It should be independent of GDI operations and either ran in or called from within the process' main loop (e.g.; WinMain(), main(), etc.).
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Jeremy Falcon wrote: don't put your main game loop in WM_PAINT
mmmm...oatmeal...
Happy new year Jeremy!
Mark Salsbery
Microsoft MVP - Visual C++
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Mark Salsbery wrote: mmmm...oatmeal...
Mark Salsbery wrote: Happy new year Jeremy!
You too man! Here's to another great year of procrastination! 
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