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FAT32 will be alot more compatable with other operating systems, and it will also be slightly faster (depending on how slow/fast the control card is) NTFS will let you have things like permissions (which isnt very secure), EFS encryption (again not super secure). NTFS might be better incase of powerloss when copying files...
If you some folders that have *very* long names on a NTFS system, then windows might cut them down on a FAT32 system.
Also, if you have alot of NTFS files with data in the hidden NTFS streams, it might annoy you when copying files, it will confirm that some NTFS data may be lost (which isnt important, but annoying..)
Incase of dataloss FAT32 files will probably be easier to recover.
I think I use FAT32 on my external drive, I use it as a backup.
Dont forget to use a program like Seagate SeaTools for Windows[^] to test the hard drive for bad sectors, to be sure it is 100% perfect.
//Johannes
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Thanks for the info..
I'm also using the the External HDD forbacup purpose. Anyway before data getting filled into that, I would like to format it into NTFS 
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And, If I'm not wrong, you can't copy more than 4GB at a time, this is a, problem for me.
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Ah yea thats true too no files larger then ~4GB, it doesnt even want to read them right? (some low level program should be able to get them out though..)
//Johannes
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I don't know, I actually discovered that trying to copy an Iso to a Mac compatible partition (FAT32). No idea if it is only right or both, right and read.
Just a question. If FAT32 is faster and easier to recover loss data. Why all NT servers or 2003, etc run on NTFS filesystems? Why not to format and install on a FAT32? Maybe just because of the maximum file size issue?
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The max file size limit may be an issue, it probably is with *very* large page files..
If the Windows server is going serve files using the windows file sharing then NTFS is a must, as it is the most dynamic and easy to use way to set file permissions for many many users.
I consider FAT32 to be a easier file system to recover incase of bad sectors/power loss, as it is more compatable with many low-level restore programs. (In which NTFS can cause confusion)
(FAT32 can get problems easier though..)
On the other hand, NTFS may in some cases be less likely to data corruption upon power loss. (ive heard that, but no first-hand experience)
NTFS also uses clusters in a bettery way, which saves space.
//Johannes
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Ok, I see for a file server.
Now, if I want to set up a web server where I won't manage files of 4GB, maybe the thing to do then would be to use a FAT32 filesystem since it is more performant?
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Back in the day I also thought about using FAT32 instead of NTFS on my server, so i converted it to FAT32. I didnt notice any change in speeds. Its kind of hard to know to know under what circumstances it will get faster.. But it probably depends on how fast the server itself is, how much RAM it has, how many files it is servering, and how many clients it has (accessing different files..) I dont think that the speed difference will be worth the downgrade in reliability. (NTFS is really alot more reliable)
I later converted my server back to NTFS. (and no change in speed)
Its better that a server that is is a few hundred microseconds slower, then having a less reliable file system...
This is kind of like the Linux comparing of EXT3 and EFS, where the same theory applies (EXT3 = slower, more reliable)
Its really good practice to use the Seagate SeaTools for DOS[^] a bootable CD/floppy that checks the disks for bad sectors on servers (or normal desktops). Dont forget to sometimes use the good old windows Scandisk, as it looks more for problems in the the NTFS/FAT32 files/structure.
//Johannes
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Ok, I taught that the speed increase could be noticed. I'll stay with NTFS.
I'm doing a full scandisk right now 
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Dont forget to use a low level full sector check like that of SeaTools for DOS
One might report errors while the other doesnt.
//Johannes
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I just downloaded it. I was wondering if it works with any HD or just Seagate? Maybe I should download the Samsung tool? (Mines are samsung)
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Seagate has kind programmers, it works for all disks.
There is nothing wrong with also using a utility from samsung, as maybe it has yet another way of low level access or other self tests.
//Johannes
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I'll give it a try tonight.
Thanks for the tips.
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Your welcome, im glad i could clear things up.
//Johannes
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NTFS is more fault tolerant. Unlike fat32 you don't need to do a scandisk every time the PC crashes. It also supports smaller cluster sizes which significantly reduces wasted space with small files. The security is probably the main reason it's used on servers though.
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use NTFS can create file which size bigger than 4GB, and it can support maximal 2TB disk size,so in earlier days only server system use it.
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Hi guys, I have this DELL when I turn it on, the fan starts spinning like crazy (gradually), so I have to unplug it since the noise is too loud. The OS (WinXP) never actually loads.
Any ideas?
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neualex wrote: so I have to unplug it since the noise is too loud
Wow. Nothing like removing the only thing keeping the CPU from melting down. Chances are you've destroyed the CPU by overheating it. Now that the CPU is probably toast, it's no surprise that Windows won't start.
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Intel chips from the p3 forward will not thermally self destruct due to loss of cooling. The p3 will panic shut down, the p4+ throttle themselves to stay at a safe temperature. IIRC Amd added the same functionality with either the athlonXP or A64 series chips.
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Cute, but hardly foolproof. I've had to replace 3 CPU's this year, all in GX270's with crap CPU grills. They do a wonderful job of competely insulting the CPU to any and all cooling attempts.
Forgot to say that the corporate "standard" is to make sure CPU stepping is turned off.
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As dave said the CPU may now be broken, a possible reason for the gradually louder and louder noise from the fan might be the common case of the fan being worn out. This can make it spin unbalanced (at the same, or lower PRM then normal) and therefore make loud noises.
Or just that the CPU is so hot it is trying to max out the fan. (its not nice to remove the fan in that case..)
//Johannes
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The fans in the GX270's and 280's are run by a tempurature sensor. As the CPU temp climbs, it increases the fan speed to add cooling. But, there is an upper limit to the fan speed. When it get's that high, it sounds like a shop vac. The best part about the greater speed is that it only serves to clog up the cooling grill faster than normal.
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I am setting up a (used) Dell D505 for a friend and found that the ethernet port allows the ethernet connector to slid in and out about 1/8 inch before it hits the stop. This causes the connection to become quite flaky, especialy if the laptop is nudged or bumped. Is this a common problem with Dell laptops?
I worked around it by disabling the built-in port in the BIOS and buying an ethernet PCMCIA card. I suspect Dell would be unable/unwilling to fix it without charging an arm and a leg (where's an 8-limbed baby when you need one)?
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The socket in my D600 has been fine on the occasions I've used it outside of the docking station.
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If seen that happen to a few 520s. The people who this happens to usually tend to insert the cable with a lot of force, actually bending the contacts a bit.
This is the reason why many ports are only rated for this-many-cycles (I've seen figures as low as 10,000 cycles).
You can always try the following:
a) try bending the contacts back a little bit.
b) have your friend tape his cable's plug with clear tape a few times, tightening the fit.
c) use an extension (breakout RJ-45 jack with RJ-45 plug). Then hotglue the plug into your connector (don't get any glue on the contacts).
d) find an independant repair company which might have the tools to replace the port easily.
e) send it to Dell for repairs and cough up the money they want.
-- modified at 8:45 Wednesday 14th November, 2007
Cheers,
Sebastian
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