Re: c# - C# Discussion Boards

Dave Kreskowiak11-Oct-07 4:01

11-Oct-07 4:01

Wow! Could your question be any more vague??

How about gather the customers requirements, come up with a design, write some code, test it, fix it, rinse and repeat.

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Re: c#

Colin Angus Mackay11-Oct-07 5:09

Colin Angus Mackay

11-Oct-07 5:09

Dave Kreskowiak wrote:
Could your question be any more vague??

Yes, but only just. He was very close to a full vagueness factor...

By wording it as "would you please give some suggestions how to make a system. please just give me a hint what to do."

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Re: c#

Dave Kreskowiak11-Oct-07 5:28

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11-Oct-07 5:28

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Re: c#

PIEBALDconsult11-Oct-07 5:22

PIEBALDconsult

11-Oct-07 5:22

I think you'll have no trouble developing a Piece Of Sh** system all on your own. Cool | :cool:

Re: c#

BoneSoft11-Oct-07 5:49

BoneSoft

11-Oct-07 5:49

I was just about to say that I see POS projects all the time. Beat me to it.

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Re: c#

MasterSharp11-Oct-07 6:37

MasterSharp

11-Oct-07 6:37

So much negativity...

Re: c#

Pete O'Hanlon11-Oct-07 11:30

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11-Oct-07 11:30

MasterSharp wrote:
So much negativity...

Come on. Feel the love. Laugh | :laugh:

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Re: c#

GuyThiebaut11-Oct-07 8:14

GuyThiebaut

11-Oct-07 8:14

POS means "Point of Sale" doesn't it?

So I guess what you are asking is for help in creating an electronic cashtill.
If this is the case I'd suggest you start off by designing a simple calculator and take it from there.

That is assuming I've understood what you mean by POS.

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Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr.11-Oct-07 8:55

Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr.

11-Oct-07 8:55

I have been know to develop such systems :p

Actually, your best bet is to purchase Quick Books or some other cots and then use its extensibility model.

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hiding option

netJP12L11-Oct-07 3:49

netJP12L

11-Oct-07 3:49

I want to hide the + or - sign in the PropertyGrid. For instance, if there are 1 main root level and has 2 child roots levels I only want to display everything expanded but again without having the options to click to minimize or maximize.

MainFolder
|
|
|_____
|
|SubFolder1
|
|SubFolder2

Thanks

Re: hiding option

TJoe11-Oct-07 3:51

TJoe

11-Oct-07 3:51

That's not something the PropertyGrid control allows you to suppress.

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Re: hiding option

Pete O'Hanlon11-Oct-07 11:48

Pete O'Hanlon

11-Oct-07 11:48

In order to do this, you'd have to take over drawing the property grid yourself. It seems like a lot of effort for not really much gain.

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interface implimentation in Excel

A M SOMAN11-Oct-07 3:12

A M SOMAN

11-Oct-07 3:12

Hi,

Today I opened the definition of Excel.ApplicationClass and I observed that it implements two interfaces called application and _application. Interface _application contains lot of members but interface application is empty and only implements interface _application. So the hierarchy is like this;

interface _application (interface with members in it)
interface application (empty interface) : _application
ApplicationClass (class) : _application, application

So the class ApplicationClass provides definitions to all members in topmost interface _application. My question is that why does this class need to implement the interface _application if it is already implemented by interface application?

Thanks in advance for all the answers by you.

Anil

Re: interface implimentation in Excel

Pete O'Hanlon11-Oct-07 11:26

Pete O'Hanlon

11-Oct-07 11:26

A M SOMAN wrote:
My question is that why does this class need to implement the interface _application if it is already implemented by interface application?

Good question. I would expect that the answer is because it's autogenerated so don't actually expect it to do anything clever there.

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What it mean when a class contructor accepts same class object ?

N a v a n e e t h11-Oct-07 3:05

N a v a n e e t h

11-Oct-07 3:05

Assume I have class1.

class class1
{
   public class1(class1 c1)
   {
   }
}

What this means ? Why a class needs another instance of the same class to be passed as parameter. I have seen this type of behavior in XmlSerializerNamespaces[^] class. It accepts XmlSerializerNamespaces object in the constructor ? Confused | :confused:

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Re: What it mean when a class contructor accepts same class object ?

TJoe11-Oct-07 3:12

TJoe

11-Oct-07 3:12

This is called a copy constructor[^]. It is used to create a copy of the given object. In .Net, the class should really implement ICloneable[^] though.

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Re: What it mean when a class contructor accepts same class object ?

N a v a n e e t h11-Oct-07 3:19

N a v a n e e t h

11-Oct-07 3:19

That's new to me. Do you have any c# links explaining this ? Why we use this ? I found that it is making a copy of object, so how parameters are passed to constructor ?

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Re: What it mean when a class contructor accepts same class object ?

TJoe11-Oct-07 3:22

TJoe

11-Oct-07 3:22

The link I provided is for C++, but the same concept applies to C#.

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Re: What it mean when a class contructor accepts same class object ?

Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr.11-Oct-07 3:20

Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr.

11-Oct-07 3:20

And yet is still isn't generic

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Re: What it mean when a class contructor accepts same class object ?

DavidNohejl11-Oct-07 3:24

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11-Oct-07 3:24

TJoe wrote:
In .Net, the class should really implement ICloneable

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Re: What it mean when a class contructor accepts same class object ?

TJoe11-Oct-07 3:30

TJoe

11-Oct-07 3:30

I did and I doubt Jonathan speaks for Microsoft. I agree with wekempf's last post. Copy constructor does specify whether it's a deep or shallow copy either. In addition, the ICloneable allows derived classes to more easily override the copy behavior. Finally, there is no way (aside from reflection) to tell if an object has a copy constructor. With the ICloneable interface, you can easy do "if (obj is ICloneable)".

-- Update: I see now that the MS guidelines recommend to not use it. But there are still applications for this interface.

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Re: What it mean when a class contructor accepts same class object ?

DavidNohejl11-Oct-07 3:56

DavidNohejl

11-Oct-07 3:56

I'm not going to join debate about copy ctor vs ICloneable now Smile | :)

However I wanted to point out there is a debate.

TJoe wrote:
-- Update: I see now that the MS guidelines recommend to not use it.

This is where I first saw that Smile | :)

Re: What it mean when a class contructor accepts same class object ?

DavidNohejl11-Oct-07 3:21

DavidNohejl

11-Oct-07 3:21

N a v a n e e t h wrote:
Why a class needs another instance of the same class to be passed as parameter.

You can use this pattern when you want to inicalize your instance using copy of data from another instance.

If you look at XmlSerializerNamespaces with Reflector, you see:

public XmlSerializerNamespaces(XmlSerializerNamespaces namespaces)
{
    this.namespaces = null;
    this.namespaces = (Hashtable) namespaces.Namespaces.Clone();
}

Re: What it mean when a class contructor accepts same class object ?

N a v a n e e t h11-Oct-07 3:25

N a v a n e e t h

11-Oct-07 3:25

Yes that made it clear. Thanks

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UI Controls which generate screens at runtime

NicoJS11-Oct-07 2:50

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11-Oct-07 2:50

For data / transactional apps such as LOB, we all want the user to view and update an object (which is usually OR mapped to a datastore) or a list of objects.

I am looking for a UI control which generates a screen at runtime based on the properties AND methods of an object. The PropertyGrid of the ComponentModel does a wonderful job but I cannot present that to users.
Also, its Reflection/Attribute driven model means the end-users cannot influence many of the display characteristics. I am fully prepared to implement an interface which the UI control imposes on me.
Such an interface can request the properties to display, the order, the category, which are updateable, default values, help, and whatever other wonderful things the UI control can do with the info it gets from the interface.
It can also ask me to save any changes the user made (which is limited to the UI type of properties such as position, size, order, etc), so the user can customize his display.

ITypedList (which is used by most grids) is a good example with its GetItemProperties method, why can't PropertyGrid also use such a method iso Attributes ?

But displaying and maintaining properties is only the beginning. Why not include methods, which are then displayed as buttons (or context menus or some other wonderful thing). When the user
clicks on a button, the UI requests values for each parameter from the user (but only after requesting defaults, allowed values, help, etc for each parameter from the implementor of the interface).

This way, Reflection/Attributes represents only one of many ways to influence the UI. I can implement the interface such that the info is called from some config file or metadata database.

Is there something like that or am I missing something ?

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