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My Wife opened an online bussiness account with a local bank. They insisted that someone come out and train her how to use it.
The reason for this was not a training issue, rather the trainer had to change all the security settings on IE to get it to work (cache https pages, etc). I wouldnt have minded if they had:
a) Told us what they were going to do
b) Didnt pretend they hadnt done it until i said i knew they changed something and would go to the press.
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Good Catch 
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Nice reply!!
Cheers
You have the thought that modern physics just relay on assumptions, that somehow depends on a smile of a cat, which isn’t there.( Albert Einstein)
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I voted you 8 for that! 
Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero
.·´¯`·->ßRÅhmmÃ<-·´¯`·.
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It often happen when the systems are decided by the different big shots who doesn't need to maintain the system.
The end result is all the middle systems are required to compensate for that (different ID, different naming of saving/current account, XML that doesn't follow XML standard).
You are not alone. 
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Vasudevan Deepak Kumar wrote: There are two identifiers for a customer in thier system. Account Number and a CustomerID.
That makes sense because a customer could open multiple accounts, account number alone won't be enough. The same thing in my company (insurance), we use both policy number and customer id.
Vasudevan Deepak Kumar wrote: For every relationship (Savings Account, Current Account, Term Deposit) that a customer opens, it actually copies and stores the data separately.
Again, this can make sense in the banking business. For us, there is coverage information for each policy. But when a customer files a claim, the coverage at the time will be copied into the individual claim file record. There could be business/security reasons for bank to maintain separate addresses for different accounts.
Vasudevan Deepak Kumar wrote: Now, the teller has to update everything individually.
That does not make sense, but you never know. If the bank is still usign mainframe like we do, automatically update everything may not be so easy.
Ok, I am done with defending stupid systems/programmers today.
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Xiangyang Liu wrote: That makes sense because a customer could open multiple accounts, account number alone won't be enough. The same thing in my company (insurance), we use both policy number and customer id.
I understand. With biggies and for enterprises who need to have accounts separately for every purpose like 'Expense', 'Payroll' etc and for each department, this might befit. But for guys like me who just maintain about the Monthly Minimum Balance and rarely when there is some fund, just thinking of saving for the rainy day to put it into a Fixed Deposit and with a specific clause in Term Deposit like 'Credit Interest to Savings Account' and all other KYC (Know Your Custoemr) guidelines as applicable from the savings account, I think this would be like a laughing stock. Isn't it?
Furthermore, in these regions, the Term Deposits had to be managed only in the same bank and most banks stipulate that a savings account is mandatory first to open a Term Deposit.
Xiangyang Liu wrote: If the bank is still usign mainframe like we do
It is a typical client server system and I don't think there aren't big mainframes being used over these places.
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[start quote, since there seems to be no button to automatically quote, at least not in Opera.... nor a preview button]
> With biggies and for enterprises who need to have accounts separately for every purpose like 'Expense', 'Payroll' etc and for each department, this might befit. But for guys like me who just maintain about the Monthly Minimum Balance and rarely when there is some fund, just thinking of saving for the rainy day to put it into a Fixed Deposit and with a specific clause in Term Deposit like 'Credit Interest to Savings Account' and all other KYC (Know Your Custoemr) guidelines as applicable from the savings account, I think this would be like a laughing stock. Isn't it?
[end quote...]
I think it would be a real laughing stock to have a different database/system design for "biggies" and "small" customers.
Don't you think so?
If they have to implement the more general and complex design for some customers, then it makes sense that they would use it for all customers. To maintain two totally different systems would be a total disaster and a waste of effort.
Oisín
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Can't blame the software developers or the software development companies for it. They just do what they've been asked to do. I can tell you clearly that this has happened because of one or a bunch of half-wit managers who has given improper inputs to the developers.
It's funny that always the developers are the underdogs, no matter what.
Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero
.·´¯`·->ßRÅhmmÃ<-·´¯`·.
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Can you believe this?
This function is supposed to be called on the Set Focus event of textboxes in vb6
Private Sub txtIN_GotFocus(Index As Integer)
setTxtWnd txtIN(Index)
End Sub
Public Sub setTxtWnd(oTxt As TextBox, Optional ByVal tbNoIndex As Boolean = False)
On Error Resume Next
With oTxt
If .Parent.ActiveControl.Name = oTxt.Name Then
If Not tbNoIndex Then
If .Parent.ActiveControl.Index = oTxt.Index Then
M_FOC:
.BorderStyle = 1
.Appearance = 1
.SelStart = 0
.SelLength = Len(.Text)
Else
GoTo M_NO_FOC
End If
Else
GoTo M_FOC
End If
Else
M_NO_FOC:
.BorderStyle = 0
.Appearance = 0
End If
End With
End Sub
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WOW. And he did it without a DoEvents call either. Sheer genius, I'd say. 
Chris Meech
I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar]
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take a look at this, he was afraid of .SetFocus
sql = "SELECT COD_GCIA FROM GerenciasWEB WHERE COD_GCIA = '" & .COD_GCIA & "'"
Set rstmp = New ADODB.Recordset
rstmp.Open sql, db, adOpenForwardOnly, adLockReadOnly
If rstmp.EOF Or rstmp.BOF Then
MsgBox "Código de Gerencia: " & .COD_GCIA & " no es valido", vbCritical, "Elija Otro"
On Error Resume Next
txtIN(6).SetFocus
Exit Sub
Else
.COD_GCIA = Trim(rstmp.Fields("COD_GCIA"))
End If
If tmpCntPermisos = 0 Then
If MsgBox("Usuario no tiene permisos", vbQuestion + vbYesNo, "¿Desea grabar?") = vbNo Then
On Error Resume Next
lvPermisos.SetFocus
Exit Sub
End If
End If
If .TIPO_USUARIO <> "PROV" And .COD_GCIA = "" Then
If MsgBox("Usuario no tiene Gerencia", vbQuestion + vbYesNo, "¿Desea grabar?") = vbNo Then
On Error Resume Next
txtIN(6).SetFocus
Exit Sub
End If
End If
'Correo
If .EMAIL <> "" Then
If Not checkIngresoEMAIL(.EMAIL) Then
MsgBox "E-Mail: " & .EMAIL & " no es valido", vbCritical, "Elija Otro"
On Error Resume Next
txtIN(5).SetFocus
Exit Sub
End If
End If
If .COD_RCB_EMAIL = "0" Or .COD_RCB_EMAIL = "" Then
Else
If .EMAIL = "" Then
MsgBox "Debe ingresar E-Mail o cambiar Tipo E-Mail", vbCritical, "Ingrese datos"
On Error Resume Next
txtIN(5).SetFocus
Exit Sub
End If
End If
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sql = "SELECT COD_GCIA FROM GerenciasWEB WHERE COD_GCIA = '" & .COD_GCIA & "'"
SQL injection anyone?
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This was done to read a file like this (That he designed also):
1 CONNECT=PROVIDER=SQLOLEDB.1;driver={SQL Server}
2 server=BGHLOCALES
3 uid=sa
4 pwd=408603222608533
5 database=LCR
6 Connect timeout=30
7 CommandTimeout=550
On Error GoTo h_err_con
If tIdd = -1 Then
'Conect a SS
i = 0
tmp = App.Path + "\Bases.ini"
If Dir(tmp) = "" Then
MensajeBOX "Error en configuración. Falta archivo: " & tmp, vbCritical, "Control de entorno"
Exit Function
Else
strConnect = ""
Open tmp For Input As #1
Do While Not EOF(1)
Line Input #1, tmp
If i = 0 Then
tmpPos = InStrRev(tmp, "1 CONNECT")
If tmpPos > 0 Then
strConnect = Trim(Mid(tmp, tmpPos + 10)) & ";"
i = 1
End If
Else
If i = 1 Then
tmpPos = InStrRev(tmp, "2 server")
If tmpPos > 0 Then
strConnect = strConnect & Trim(Mid(tmp, tmpPos + 2)) & ";"
i = 2
End If
Else
If i = 2 Then
tmpPos = InStrRev(tmp, "3 uid")
If tmpPos > 0 Then
strConnect = strConnect & Trim(Mid(tmp, tmpPos + 2)) & ";"
i = 3
End If
Else
If i = 3 Then
tmpPos = InStrRev(tmp, "4 pwd")
If tmpPos > 0 Then
' tmpCr = CodificarLI("XVB2S45AF", 1)
' tmpCr = DeCodificarLI(tmpCr, 1)
tmpCr = DeCodificarLI(Trim(Mid(tmp, tmpPos + 6)))
strConnect = strConnect & "pwd=" & tmpCr & ";"
i = 4
End If
Else
If i = 4 Then
tmpPos = InStrRev(tmp, "5 database")
If tmpPos > 0 Then
strConnect = strConnect & Trim(Mid(tmp, tmpPos + 2)) & ";"
i = 5
End If
Else
If i = 5 Then
tmpPos = InStrRev(tmp, "6 ")
If tmpPos > 0 Then
strConnect = strConnect & Trim(Mid(tmp, tmpPos + 2)) & ";"
i = 6
End If
Else
If i = 6 Then
tmpPos = InStrRev(tmp, "7 ")
If tmpPos > 0 Then
strConnect = strConnect & Trim(Mid(tmp, tmpPos + 2)) & ";"
i = 7
End If
Else
If i = 7 Then
tmpPos = InStrRev(tmp, "8 ")
If tmpPos > 0 Then
strConnect = strConnect & Trim(Mid(tmp, tmpPos + 2)) & ";"
i = 8
End If
Else
End If
End If
End If
End If
End If
End If
End If
End If
Loop
Close #1
If strConnect = "" Then
MensajeBOX "Error en configuración. Error en archivo: " & "Bases.ini", vbCritical, "Control de entorno"
Exit Function
End If
End If
Set db = New ADODB.Connection
db.ConnectionTimeout = 30
db.CursorLocation = adUseClient
db.Open strConnect
And of course, this piece of code was used in every aplication that used a conection with a sql server.
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I'd be careful about posting chunks of code large enough to be readily recognized. If a clueful coworker discovers them you could end up in serious trouble.
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If you view money as inherently evil, I view it as my duty to assist in making you more virtuous.
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Don't worry, we are only 2 in the development sector, me and my boss, and obviously he doesn't read The Code Project.com! 
Anyway, i am really tied of working with someone like this, i see no future here, and i am actually looking for another job.
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Burnsys2 wrote:
Don't worry, we are only 2 in the development sector, me and my boss, and obviously he doesn't read The Code Project.com!
You'd better hope that this continues. This site is rather famous you know, and google does tend to return results from here. I assume he does use google.
Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.
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That would be Seinfeld-worthy stuff! 
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Pete O`Hanlon wrote: and google does tend to return results from here. I assume he does use google.
I don't think that codeproject forum is google-friendly.. I do a lot of googling everyday but I never saw any post of the codeproject *forum* in google result.. I did suggest about that once and I think cp guys are working on that thing now.
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Michael Sync wrote: I do a lot of googling everyday but I never saw any post of the codeproject *forum* in google result
Not so much the forums as the site itself - and from there, just a quick click to the forums, and then a quick boot out of the door for the OP.
Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.
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Oh yeah, I'd hire you in a flash. Especially as you have total respect for your line manager and are completely discreet when it comes to the publishing of in house code
The only thing unpredictable about me is just how predictable I'm going to be.
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please tell me that the code that has been published doesn't contain an sa password aswell?
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The database server doesn't exists anymore, and the sa psw is encripted in the code!
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