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asthalas wrote: I did travel a lot until I settled in Valencia. It was fun and I strongly recommend it.
Now I have to remind me that I have little money but great weather
Valencia is a great place. I've only had a chance to visit once. I went camping just to the south of the city. I most enjoyed my visit to the LLadró factory. They have some beautiful stuff in there, although I couldn't believe they were allowed to smoke while painting the figurines.
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how desperate is desperate? Because if you think the wages in Spain are bad, I'll wager they're astronomical compared to the Middle East. I am looking for a change too 
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Not all of the Middle East.
In a nation where technology is respected, appreciated, and pursued, the pay is good. Major top-end software development goes on: in Israel.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
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I'm in Portugal, I though about it a while ago, and I'm still thinking about it.
Although same problems like wife and a kid had me grounded 'till now.
I'm thinking about spending a year or so just to see if it really worths it...
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AlexCode wrote: I'm in Portugal, I though about it a while ago, and I'm still thinking about it.
Although same problems like wife and a kid had me grounded 'till now.
Our schools often have additional classes for non-English speakers to get up to speed and your kid will be speaking like a native in no time.
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And as we're speaking about this, how much is "well payed" there? 
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AlexCode wrote: And as we're speaking about this, how much is "well payed" there?
As in Glasgow?
Well £30K ($60K) seems to be about average for a software developer. A bit more if you are in a financial company.
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As Colin say, it depends on where you are and in which sector.
£45k is not uncommon for a senior developer working in the engineering sector in the South East UK, but a financial sector position in London could well go for £70k or so (it would have corresponding higher pressure, of course!).
It really depends on what you're looking for. A quick search of http://www.jobserve.co.uk[^] should give you an idea of what's around.
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To leave my life here it must be for more that £45k a year.
I think my base line is on £60k...
Maybe I'll try that in a short time.
Thanks!
Alex
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asthalas wrote: underpaid and overworked job
not the same case in india, compared to others soft people are gaining good and there are some exceptions and yes its a kinda overworked job.
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For what I've read, it all comes down to:
How well/bad are programmers paid in your country compared to the average salary?
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