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RoswellNX wrote:
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But I can not find this attribute in W3C HTML description also? 
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Well, i didn't even bother checking if such thing existed, but it's the first time i'm seeing something like this as well. I'm assuming it's just some auto-generated IE-specific Microsoft crap. At least the the meta generator is labeled as Frontpage 6.0
Roswell
"Angelinos -- excuse me. There will be civility today."
Antonio VillaRaigosa
City Mayor, Los Angeles, CA
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RoswellNX wrote: At least the the meta generator is labeled as Frontpage 6.0
I agree. The HTML generated by it (and its successor) is horrendous really. It makes the applications to just get locked down to IE Shop, making us shiver before our Project Manager on accounts of cross-browser compatibility. 
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And this Frontpage behavior is what pushed me to writing my own markup (and later code as went into web dev) four years ago (otherwise i would have stuck to computer graphics and illustration). When i found out that on Macs even under IE, the "IE-specific" stuff rendered horribly. Apparently Ms stepped into their own pile of sh*t :->
Roswell
P.S. I hope you've seen the updated 1st post, now that i've realized that i forgot to escape a few of the angle brackets
"Angelinos -- excuse me. There will be civility today."
Antonio VillaRaigosa
City Mayor, Los Angeles, CA
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RoswellNX wrote: Apparently Ms stepped into their own pile of sh*t
Ewwwwwwwwwwwww 
"Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon
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There is no substitute for hand-written HTML; just say "no" to code generators.
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PIEBALDconsult wrote: There is no substitute for hand-written HTML; just say "no" to code generators.
True, and that's not my own code, it's a project i've been hired to maintain, and chances are it will end up being a complete rebuild. I've actually drawn up (on paper) the design already in case the guy will agree to go forward with it.
Roswell
"Angelinos -- excuse me. There will be civility today."
Antonio VillaRaigosa
City Mayor, Los Angeles, CA
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The real WTF here is... whoops, wrong site
Having worked with HTML for years, it surprises me that there are still no really good wysiwyg editors. I hope soon that html will just be a bad memory and something far better, and editor friendly, replaces the hell spawned duo of html and css.
"It was the day before today.... I remember it like it was yesterday."
-Moleman
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Wow!
<span style="text-decoration: underline;">BOS being loaded with MSW using front end loader</span>.
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A few years back, I had to use DB2 on AIX machine as the database for my ASP.NET 1.1 application. The provider had an interesting bug. When a Primary Key constraint is violated by inserting a duplicate record, it wouldn't throw a simple exception but an ExecutionEngineException would get invoked. I came across the then forum post, one of my team members posted then over here (http://www.dbforums.com/archive/index.php/t-479734.html[^])
We also cross-checked this provider issue using ASP and it was just giving the message "Exceptions occured".
Interestingly, the DB2 ODBC Driver works fine. I was just curious at least if the later versions of DB2 OLEDB Provider are free of this malady.
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We use a third-party managed provider from DataDirect[^] for connecting to DB2. If possible, prefer a native .NET provider to using an OLE DB provider through OleDbConnection or an ODBC driver through OdbcConnection.
We looked at IBM's own managed provider but discovered it wasn't compatible with the customer's security settings (I forget the details, I think they were still using plaintext password authentication).
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As interesting as this is, is it really a Coding Horror? There's no code for us to gasp and recoil in fear from, then laugh shakily when we realise that we can see the wires.
Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.
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Pete O`Hanlon wrote: There's no code for us to gasp and recoil in fear from
It isn't a big deal. I have also given a situation where the provider crashes. A simple table with a Unique or Primary Key. A Console Application that tries to violate the primary key by inserting a duplicate value is enough to detonate the setup.
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i am converting code in basic language from CASIO FX 880P, blindly into vb.net CF... guess what, vb.net doesnt support the GOSUB statement anymore.. many gosub statements in the source code perform recurrsions...
if i cud only find the starting end of this noodle.. hmmmm
All Rights Reserved! All Wrongs Revenged!
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Is it really so hard to read and understand the forum guidelines?
Regards,
mav
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Black holes are the places where God divided by 0...
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This forum is not a place to ask for help to a problem, but rather discuss what programming horror you have run across and how you fixed it/avoided it (note the past tense here). Try the programming forums for programming questions/problems
As far as gosub is concerned, you have to take the code that is referenced by the gosub and refactor it into a procedure. Then, call the procedure. Just a bit of code converting ahead for you
"Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon
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"whats with men and asking directions?" Finding Nemo..
I am to egoistic to ask for help .. i was just sharing one of my worst experiences.. besides how wud you refactor a recurrsion? specially when all the variables are just capital alphabets?
IF A>1E99 THEN GOSUB#0
HOW I MANAGED TO WORK AROUND
i executed the code on the calculator (Since i am not aware of any simulator for fx880p), used the STOP button on the calculator (since there are no breakpoints in fx880p) and drew a control flow diagram (estimated).. then i had to copy some lines of code into several sub procedures (cons of noodle programming) most of the times, plucking out independent section of LOCs into a sperate function was easy ... some times it was impossible .. i yet have to test the application but as the the saying goes
Testing can be used to prove the presence of errors in a software, but not to prove thier absence... (i think dijkstra said/implied it)
P.S. i used PRESENT TENSE bcz i was still working on the same project not bcz i am PRESENTLY TENSE (and thus need help)..
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digitals2002 wrote: i was just sharing one of my worst experiences..
Okay 
digitals2002 wrote: how wud you refactor a recurrsion?
Very carefully
digitals2002 wrote: All Rights Reserved! All Wrongs Revenged!
I like that
"Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon
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So, if you want recursion what is wrong with this:
if( a < fSomeValue ) <br />
ThisFunction();
And really, listening to your hardships is painful. Why not rewrite the whole thing instead? Really!
The rewrite might take longer, but debugging time would be shorter, and your code would be one helluva lot easier to manage in the future.
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Action without thought is not action
Action without emotion is not life
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Paul Conrad wrote: This forum is not a place to ask for help to a problem, but rather discuss what programming horror you have run across
If using GOSUB doesn't meet the definition of "coding horror", I don't know what does.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
If using GOSUB doesn't meet the definition of "coding horror", I don't know what does.
I guess you have the same feelings towards the use of a nice little goto in c/c++ code.
This lovely keyword is already one of the most unapreciated keywords in the language 
Surely you can't consider __asm jmp some_lable; as coding horror.
codito ergo sum
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Any assembly language is a coding horror (just like any flavor of VB you might happen to mention).
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: Any assembly language is a coding horror
Awww, come on :->
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: any flavor of VB you might happen to mention
Yep...
"Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon
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