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I'm a fairly intensive MS Office user, primarily Word, Outlook and Excel, and after the first few days of relearning where some things were with the 2007 releases I haven't looked back. Everything is where it logically should be -- no more searching the Edit, Insert and Format menus to try and find out how to do something, instead it is just there in front of you or a single click away. Features like the style previews, context sensitive ribbons, and task-oriented layout were well overdue IMO, and the new Office menu is the best thing since Vista's searchable start menu.
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Yup.
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Paul Watson
Ireland & South Africa
Shog9 wrote: And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...
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MadHatter ¢ wrote: opening help to find out where they put the damned paste special
But Ribbon Controls prove to be useful for applications like Excel which has thousands of features... just accompanying them in traditional way results in too many toolbars...
I am thinking about implementing Ribbon Bar (using a 3rd party control)... Can any one of you tell me will it be a useful feature or just an eye-candy in the end user's perspective...
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Chris Maunder wrote: Not even support for multiple versions of .NET? I thought at least that one would get a tick from you.
Nope. One has a lot of control over the environment when producing turnkey systems.
Marc
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People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith
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So I take it you've accepted the gradients...
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For a minute that was the answer I wanted then I finally decided to go with the first two as I have no interest in the .NET stuff at all I just want C++ to work, support the new instruction sets (SSE3 and SSE4) and I would like them to fix some of the annoying bugs in the current IDE. Although I don't expect any miracles on the last one...
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John
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That is why they have provided options to customize the IDE. You can have
1) your own custom templates, projects and solutions
2) Your own wizards
3) Your own macros, pre-compilers
4) Your own providers (login provider, site map provider etc.)
5) custom templates.
Designing these things were very difficult in earlier versions, but is pretty easy now. I could really improve my coding speeds atleast by 40%.
I don't think, there is any IDE which allows this much customisation (even for other languages like Java, coldfusion or PHP).
There is no meaning in adding new and new features to the IDE. But, what is required is to have an SDK using which we can create our own code generators, templates etc. that suits the nature of projects we are doing. VS (and only VS ?) is doing this right now and I am very much satisfied with it.
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Madhu Kampurath wrote: That is why they have provided options to customize the IDE
Well, I don't really have the time or motivation to write all my own custom templates, wizards, macros, providers, etc.
Of course, that'll also mean that those that do have the time and motivation will be writing (and possibly selling) some interesting things.
In the final analysis though, I pretty much just want a decent code editor, a decent compiler, and a decent debugger. They shouldn't crash, they shouldn't hose up the solution tree, and it should be easy to preserve configuration settings with source control. All the rest is fluff and should be add-ins, rather than six different product lines with selected features pigeonholed into someone's concept of what a team, tester, db person, developer, etc. is.
Is that too much to ask for? It seems so.
Marc
Thyme In The CountryInteracxPeople are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith
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Marc Clifton wrote: I pretty much just want a decent code editor, a decent compiler, and a decent debugger
Amen. Except the compiler bit.
regards,
Paul Watson
Ireland & South Africa
Shog9 wrote: And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...
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Isn't why you pay serious bucks for an IDE so that THEY make it for you, not that they give you another framework for you to spend months customising before you can get actual, paying work done?
regards,
Paul Watson
Ireland & South Africa
Shog9 wrote: And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...
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LOL. And I'd think there is enough edition of Visual Studio already. You want more? Visual Studio 2009 Professional for Developers Internet Store Developer Edition?? 
"Throughout human history, we have been dependent on machines to survive. Fate, it seems, is not without a sense of irony. " - Morpheus
"Real men use mspaint for writing code and notepad for designing graphics." - Anna-Jayne Metcalfe
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I am paying for the framework (with which I can customise VS) I got.
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Same here, none of the above. I'm still trying to think of any IDE improvements that would affect C++ dev. New common controls in the resource editor perhaps, but the resource editor itself is awful and I try not to use it to begin with.
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Phil.Benson wrote: Who the f*** is General Failure, and why is he reading my harddisk?
That's awesome sig material!!! LOL
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A very old one, I stole it from someone else, somewhere a while back...
Who the f*** is General Failure, and why is he reading my harddisk?
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