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I'm still using Win2K, and I bet I have fewer security concerns than most people.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997 ----- "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001
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Me too. Win2000 is pretty secure as long as you avoid using other MS software (IE, ActiveX, WMP, etc.).
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If you look at the Microsoft support site and search a little bit you will find that full support for XP will last until 2009. XP users don't have nothing to worry about until SP3 or 4 is out for Vista. Which by then might be insteresting in the least. Or by then most current MS users will have moved to Linux.
I have personally been a user of windows since Windows 2.0 and a developer for almost as long....I only started looking at and using linux in the past couple of years, but Vista is all the incentive i needed for me to make the move. I will never use of develop on or for Vista. Vista has been a long time promise from MS and a story full of disappointments for would be users, and I have been completely discouraged to even look at it just from the stuff the MS said about it and the stuff they removed from it. Let alone all that was said from beta testers and the like. We were promised a new OS full of new features that would make our computers more secure, run faster, be easier to use, faster file finding, etc etc etc. We are left with a shiny version of the old stuff we already use, turned into a mess because they moved and changed everything we new and is, as far as I am concerned, only rumored by MS to be more secure and that seriously remains disputed.
Dewm Solo - Managed C++ Developer
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I do count UI major improvements as a reason. Maybe not a compelling one, but fairly strong reason. And I'm not talking about schmick looking forms etc (which are just a bonus), but easier ways of managing files, networks, making use of new hardware, and all the other things the OS is supposed to do.
For example seeing which folders are taking up the most space on your drives would be a welcome feature. Sure there are programs to do it, but if there were various UI features like that in each new release (e.g. Vista has improved Alt-Tab, taskbar preview, better dialog usability etc) then it starts to become a compelling reason to upgrade. Especially if these various enhancements shave off up to half an hour a day of lost time with easier ways to do stuff.
"For fifty bucks I'd put my face in their soup and blow." - George Costanza ~ Web SQL Utility - asp.net app to query Access, SQL server, MySQL. Stores history, favourites.
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excited, because Microsoft seems to push me finally to a total migration to Linux.
Zynismus ist der geglückte Versuch die Welt zu verstehen.
Zwei Dinge sind unendlich. Das Universium und die menschliche Dummheit. Nur beim ersteren bin ich mir nicht sicher.
Albert Einstein
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When I first heard about Vista i was excited (and naive) but then they steadily removed everything good about it and left us with a new obscenity.
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Yup.
Hasta la Vista baby.
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why I needed a 4 Core CPU, 4GB memory, 350GB hard drive and a GPU card that consumes 150 Watts, now I know why, It´s called Vista.
p.s.
That is of course just to read my mails, If I need to do any 'serious' work, I´ll probably have to upgrade my memory to 8GB, and buy a second hard drive...
mfg
Phil
Who the f*** is General Failure, and why is he reading my harddisk?
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VistaVoter
Begin
if (Vista.Uses(HighVolume)) then
return;
if (Vista == great UI) then
{
Find
Install
return;
}
else continue;
if (Vista == fast, cheap OS) then
{
Buy
Install
Use it
}
Vote for option Yes
End
L.W.C. Nirosh,
Colombo,
Sri Lanka.
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Must be a Veterans' Day special
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Nishant Sivakumar wrote: Must be a Veterans' Day special
Looks like the days polls start have changed.
Quote from Poll:
Vista has gone Gold. Are you excited?
11 Nov 2006 to 17 Nov 2006
Based on the number of comments here, looks like everyone is giddy with excitement about the release of vista.
I'd love to help, but unfortunatley I have prior commitments monitoring the length of my grass. :Andrew Bleakley:
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I'm amazed by this way of gaining weight, altough it's api did'n changed that much since the first win95,ok, the x64 version has a x32 api which it's nearly as big as the os itself, so it's doubling it's size, but we are talking about ~10GB. How come this fatty behaviour? Does anyone have a plausible explanation?
Regards - Jan
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.Net Framework 1.0
.Net Framework 1.1
.Net Framework 2.0
.Net Framework 3.0
Glass
Grim (aka Toby) MCDBA, MCSD, MCP+SB
SELECT * FROM users WHERE clue IS NOT NULL
GO
(0 row(s) affected)
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Actually it only has .NET 3.0 installed
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I couldn't believe what I read, so checked and indeed, it only has 3.0 combined with 2.0 installed. It would be rather weird if it had 1.1 and 1.0 also
WM.
What about weapons of mass-construction?
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I find that to be unlikely, considering that 3.0 is built on top of 2.0.
On the other hand, I don't really know what is and isn't included in Vista. It never really interested me, as I'm not overly interested in the fancy graphics, and there doesn't seem to be much else to it.
Grim (aka Toby) MCDBA, MCSD, MCP+SB
SELECT * FROM users WHERE clue IS NOT NULL
GO
(0 row(s) affected)
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Coming from a person who hasn't probably tested it...
I've checked in on my current Vista installation so it's pretty likely
And there is ALOT more to it then just the "fancy graphics", for all the die-hards you can still use the ugly-old Windows 2000 look, which (because it isn't handled by my 3d-card) is probably even slower
I can tell (from personal experience) that the Aero look works alot better then when Vista switches to Basic look because some application locks front buffer.
The new explorer, start menu, file dialogs are so much easier to use then on xp. The security is so much better. There is so much more to it then just graphics
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Steve Hansen wrote: I've checked in on my current Vista installation so it's pretty likely
Please explain, then, exactly how the .Net framework 3.0 can possibly work on a machine that doesn't have 2.0.
Inquiring minds and all that.
Grim (aka Toby) MCDBA, MCSD, MCP+SB
SELECT * FROM users WHERE clue IS NOT NULL
GO
(0 row(s) affected)
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Because it contains it?
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I finally found the reason why
The complete installation is by default copied to your harddisk so you don't need the dvd anymore, I haven't look if its possible to disable or uninstall this because I did it anyway and like it like it is.
Above that .NET framework 3.0 (with 2.0 included ) is also installed and media center too. Plus I've only tested the RC1 build so it probably contains some extra debug data.
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meaning what ?
CListCtrl
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Normally, it means that you've sold 1,000,000 copies (at least when you are talking about records)
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In software business, this generally means that a "gold master" cd copy has been burned. This is historical, because formerly, one needed a special (golden) CDR as a master copy for mass reproduction. Nowadays, these don't necessarily need to be golden any more, but the term is still used for the master CD copy of a software release.
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meaning that ?
CListCtrl
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It is a common name in the software business for the first and original release.
Greetings from Germany
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