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or more like they're becoming the minority 
We made the buttons on the screen look so good you'll want to lick them. Steve Jobs
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norm .net wrote: they're becoming the minority
We were always the minority - there were always more business internal apps programmers than the system/library/real-time/whatever ones. Only they change their languages more often - PowerBuilder/VB/Delphi/Java/C#. We are pretty much constrained to either C or C++.
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Well said!
As they are business internal apps that change according to the latest fad that the development manager has caught on to. The impact of change is internal, but for system/library/real-time, the impact maybe a plane crash.
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This is mainly an MS website so it's probably not surprising.
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I for one voted for both C++ and C#, however I do 97% of my work in the C++ realm. So while my votes may show an even split between C++ and C#, my main focus is C++. At the time I typed this message however, it would seem that even if you assumed all C++ people were like me, that C# would be about as popular as C++. Oh well.
In case Chris or anyone else cares.... MFC however is all but dead to me. I could care less about it. The articles I find most interesting on CP discuss are (in order of importance to me):
- Platform independent C++ code (I know I won't find very many articles about this on CP)
- Win32 API
- C++/CLI
- C#
- VB.NET
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KevinHall wrote: Platform independent C++ code (I know I won't find very many articles about this on CP)
Actually, there are quite a few of them, and some are very good.
Of course, if you meant not many relative to C# or MFC articles, you are right.
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Nemanja Trifunovic wrote: Actually, there are quite a few of them, and some are very good.
Of course, if you meant not many relative to C# or MFC articles, you are right.
I think you read my post too quickly. C# obviously isn't C++ and MFC isn't platform independent.
What I meant was C++ code that could be used on Windows and Unix and Linux and VxWorks and uItron and .... This usually involves templates or some open-source generic library -- say for handling UTF-8 strings (not that you would know anything about that  )
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KevinHall wrote: I think you read my post too quickly. C# obviously isn't C++ and MFC isn't platform independent.
What I meant was C++ code that could be used on Windows and Unix and Linux and VxWorks and uItron and ....
I think I got what you mean. What I tried to say (  ) was that the number of "standard C++ articles" is low if you compare it with the number of MFC ones, but still there are quite a few of them.
KevinHall wrote: This usually involves templates or some open-source generic library -- say for handling UTF-8 strings (not that you would know anything about that )
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Nemanja Trifunovic wrote: I think I got what you mean. What I tried to say ( ) was that the number of "standard C++ articles" is low if you compare it with the number of MFC ones, but still there are quite a few of them.
Ahhh... OK. Then I made the mistake. Yeah, there are some good ones. But their frequency is at the "noise" level which makes searching for them difficult at CP. I wish there was a site like CP that foucussed on platform independent C and C++ articles AND had frequent high-quality posts. (If anyone knows of one, please let me know.) I know that some people at CP don't believe that this is still important, but there are many applications in the embedded and/or real-time arena that still require C++ and sometimes even just plain C.
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If those are the kind of articles you want to see on this site, then go ahead and write them. No one is stopping you.
You may be right
I may be crazy
-- Billy Joel --
Within you lies the power for good, use it!!!
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I knew that was coming. 
Seriously though, I haven't come up with anything original enough to be an article. I suppose I could write some C++ basics articles. Maybe I will....
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