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I know that the IT field is down. But there are rumours that things are looking better in the US. Does this mean the chances are better for quality 3rd world coders to land up H1B jobs?
Nish
The rumours that I am an AI bot are absolutely false. These rumours have been propogated by *them* to focus all the attention on to me, while *their* bots take over the planet. Thank y%%%% Divide by zero. Cannot proceed. Abort(y/y)?
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Well, one thing for sure, here in Portugal, it's not that difficult and the pay isn't the lower , normally the entry level is 17457,92 euros a year and since the life's cost is one of the lowers in europe, we programmers can have a decent life 
Cheers,
Joao Vaz
The Most Unhappy and Frustrated TCL programmer,besides that a Happy guy
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Joao Vaz wrote:
17457,92 euros a year
I assume that the comma is actually the decimal point.
That means about 1,500 euros per month.
How do I convert that to Indian Rupees or USD?
Nish
The rumours that I am an AI bot are absolutely false. These rumours have been propogated by *them* to focus all the attention on to me, while *their* bots take over the planet. Thank y%%%% Divide by zero. Cannot proceed. Abort(y/y)?
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The euro is about 0.89/0.90 of the USD
Cheers,
Joao Vaz
The Most Unhappy and Frustrated TCL programmer,besides that a Happy guy
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Joao Vaz wrote:
The euro is about 0.89/0.90 of the USD
Hmmm about USD 1350 per month!
Not a fancy amount, not at all.
But yet, much better than what I get here.
About 6 times as much as I get here per month 
Nish
The rumours that I am an AI bot are absolutely false. These rumours have been propogated by *them* to focus all the attention on to me, while *their* bots take over the planet. Thank y%%%% Divide by zero. Cannot proceed. Abort(y/y)?
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Nish [BusterBoy] wrote:
About 6 times as much as I get here per month
No comments ...
Cheers,
Joao Vaz
The Most Unhappy and Frustrated TCL programmer,besides that a Happy guy
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That's Elementary Mr.Watson Just multiply by ur exchnge rate..i think that hovers around 45 bucks(INR) to a EURO
Sriiiiiiii...............The Smart Geek
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Nish!
Things in the US still good for good programmers like you. Of course companies are very careful right now in who they offer a job.
In the jobs posted companies are not offering relocation or H1-B visas, even friends of mine with TN visas have problems finding jobs.
Anway, somebody like you won't have a problem getting a job in the US. However, would you like to wait for 3+ months for your H1B, while doing paper work and then when you work for the company to know the you cannot move companies?
Oh! When dotcoms were going down and closing doors, many, many H1B with wifes and kids had to leave their houses and cars in 10 days to go back to their countries. In 10 days is very difficult to sell a house, 2 cars and pull your kids out of their school.
Just something for you to think about it!
Al
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Thanks Albert,
It's not an American craze or anything with me. If I could get similar conditions here in Trivandrum, I'd be happy to live the rest of my life locked in a room. But I want fast computers, big monitors, fast internet access, complete legal software. All this is highly improbable in India
Nish
Check out last week's Code Project posting stats presentation from :-
http://www.busterboy.org/codeproject/
Feel free to make your comments.
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Really?
That's surprising! Is because is more expensive? Or they don't sell them?
What internet access do you have there? T1, T3, DSL, cable modem or 56K dial up?
I love programming, but I couldn't actually be happy lock up in a room!!
I like the wonderful weather of Southern California 
Al
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Albert Pascual wrote:
That's surprising! Is because is more expensive? Or they don't sell them?
Both. India does not have even 25% of America's bandwidth
And what we have is very very expensive.
Nish
Check out last week's Code Project posting stats presentation from :-
http://www.busterboy.org/codeproject/
Feel free to make your comments.
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hey nish
im also heading out to the states at the end of the year ... hopefully not to work too much (have a project i want to sell out there if i can) but work if i have to ... how have you gone about applying for stuff or are just at the 'thinking about it' stage?
"... and so i said to him ... if it can't dance and you can't eat it either f**k it or throw it away"
8028finder.com
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Hello Lauren,
Last October [2001], my company tried to send me out for a couple of months on a Business Visa. It was for the initial design and system study of a new project. Maybe October was a bad time to apply for a Visa, because of the Sep 11 attacks. My Visa application was rejected. I was quite disappointed as you might expect. Anyway Business Visas are not easy to get. I think the work-permit Visa [H1B] is a safer option.
Regards
Nish
p.s. I have not applied directly to an US company for a job. I have sent my resume to one company though. A few people have directly offered me contract jobs. But none of them ever made any solid or safe offers. I mean, I can't risk simply going there only to have to return 2 months later and then I'll be unemployed here as well.
The posting stats are now in PDF:-
http://www.busterboy.org/codeproject/
Feel free to make your comments.
Updated - May 04th, Saturday
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ya i am also thinking on the same line can u pls suggest me , how should i proceed , i have 3 yrs exp with VC++....
--- Subodh
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At present, I think it is best to stick to your job and get as much experience as possible together with the certified courses. Moving to the States or UK is not looking that good.
They say it is picking up but I can not see that at present as I have a lot of working experience and just been made redundant. I have been applying but no response so far.
np
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Hi,
I have a full-time job developing software. In my spare time I have developed several programs that, in my humble opinion, have some commercial value. I would like to sell these programs on the internet but have no clue how to start. I know of companies like DigitalRiver that sell the software for you.
Do you guys have any experience selling your own software. Do you actually sell copies or is it not worth your time. Do you sell the software yourself or do you use a third party.
Looking very much forward to your reactions. Any reaction is welcome, I am looking for a broad discussion.
Woody
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Some good information at this site. It isnt a plug or anything. I just think it is a decent site. Perhaps in a few years when i have more exerience..
http://www.asp-shareware.org
Mark A
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My husband & I have been trying to find jobs in Raleigh, NC. The job search has come to a halt since there is nothing. He has a master's in Comp Sci, and I have my bachelor's in Comp Sci. He is a genius, programmed in Java, C, VC++, and OpenGL. I "get by", programmed in Ada (yeah, we're defense contractors) and VC++. We are tired of paying someone else's mortgage and wish to return to the South. It just looks so bleak. I am getting to the point where I think we ought to just concede and buy a house in NOWHEREsville. What do you think? Am I overreacting? Impatient?
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Where are you at currently? I'm in Virginia, near DC, and there are many defense contractor positions open.
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I'm in southern MD (Patuxent River) working for a defense contractor. We know we're good as long as we stay here, but we aren't interested in doing that.
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HI, me and my girl friend are thinking of moving San Francisco
next year or so. I was wondering if anyone knows how the job market
is in the city. I want to work with Visual C++ doing financial
applications, either client/GUI or server programmer is fine.
We wants to live in the city and I don't like to commute
so are there any programming jobs in the city or are they all
located outside in boring Silicon Valley?
Thanks, Patric
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MellowmanNYC wrote:
I want to work with Visual C++ doing financial
applications, either client/GUI or server programmer is fine.
We wants to live in the city and I don't like to commute
You shouldnt have a problem. Employers are scrambling to create jobs like this!!
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I'm a student and I'm doing my project:
Build a Certification Authority
Can you give me some informations, links, tutorials, email, which related to this problem ?
Thanks!
Hung Son
A Vietnamese student
i-g.hypermart.net
dlhson2001@yahoo.com
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I've been doing C++ my whole career, including my share of very low-level stuff (e.g. I used to work at Microsoft, where one product I worked on in the early '90s was the Visual C++ debugger). I still love C++, but I am also coming to absolutely adore C# and .NET -- they just make it so ridiculously easy to do cool stuff.
I'm interested in finding a job doing client-side C#/.NET stuff using Windows Forms (server-side doesn't interest me much). I think probably in five years or so, after .NET has really taken hold, this will be easy to find; but for now, even if I could find ANY client-side .NET work, it would most likely be the kind of stuff that used to be done in VB, e.g. vertical-market software for filling out forms, accessing databases, etc. I'm more interested in working on the kind of stuff that's traditionally done in C++, such as shrinkwrap applications and tools.
Is anyone out there aware of companies doing interesting work using client-side .NET? I'm in Burlingame CA, so I'm looking as far north as S.F. and as far south as Palo Alto.
Any suggestions of web sites I should look at to try to find such companies? None turned up on hotjobs or Monster -- I want to take a different tack: Instead of going to job-search web sites and looking for .NET, I think maybe I should go to .NET web sites and search for jobs. E.g. I plan to check places like gotdotnet.com and msdn.microsoft.com to see if there are lists of companies working with .NET.
Mike Morearty
mike@morearty.com
http://www.morearty.com
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As you mentioned, I suspect the pickings will be slim on the job market for a while, due both to how new the product is and the current tight tech market. However, I think there was actually one possible solution embedded within your question.
Mike Morearty wrote:
I'm more interested in working on the kind of stuff that's traditionally done in C++, such as shrinkwrap applications and tools.
Instead of looking for another 9 to 5, why not spend your spare time figuring out what types of shrinkwrap tools you could put together for .NET developers? Remember when VB first hit? People like Dan Appleman (Desaware) did well because he was early to market with VBX bolt ons, and it turned out to be a huge market. He's much better off than he would have been had he just looked for a job writing code in the (then) new VB environment.
Anytime there's a paradigm shift in our development environment, there are opportunities to provide new tools to developers. While it may not be as obvious as the VBX market, I'll bet with your experience and a little creative thinking you could come up with some great shrink wrap products that you could, if nothing else, sell off your web site. If the tools are relevant & good and you're first to market, it might even make you enough to make your company your new 9 to 5.
I mean, if you're spending your spare time coding in .NET now anyway, why not write something you can sell?
Chistopher Duncan
Author - The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World (Apress)
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