Re: C# vs. Unmanaged C++ - C# Discussion Boards

23-Mar-02 5:35

Hurray!

The C# forum has 1000 posts now.

This is in fact the 1000th one. Talk about coincidence Wink | ;-)

Nish

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leaving, or where she's gonna go
I guess she's got her reasons but I just don't wanna know
'Cos for 24 years I've been living next door to Alice
24 years just waitin' for a chance
To tell her how I feel and maybe get a second glance
Now I gotta get used to not living next door to Alice

Re: 1000

James T. Johnson23-Mar-02 9:00

23-Mar-02 9:00

DOH! It rolled over while I was sleeping Frown | :(

:-P

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Re: 1000

Nish Nishant23-Mar-02 9:07

23-Mar-02 9:07

James T. Johnson wrote:
It rolled over while I was sleeping

James

You can find cheer in the fact that a real nice guy like me took the opportunity to post the 1000th post.

Nish Wink | ;-)

Re: 1000

James T. Johnson24-Mar-02 9:42

24-Mar-02 9:42

True

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C# vs. Unmanaged C++

gt4924f22-Mar-02 18:07

gt4924f

22-Mar-02 18:07

Does anyone have any resources or benchmarks on execution speed of C# and unmanaged C++ code? I'm primarily interested in intensive mathmatical algorithms. My gut feeling tells me that unmanaged code should be faster because it lacks the intermediate languages and compilers that are involved with C# (or the .NET framework in general). However, I did find this interesting benchmark that I find a little hard to believe. But who knows?

http://www.devhood.com/tutorials/tutorial_details.aspx?tutorial_id=203&printer=t

Nish Nishant23-Mar-02 3:19

23-Mar-02 3:19

It's not a fair comparison to compare C# with unmanaged C++. Or do you actually mean managed C++?

Nish

gt4924f23-Mar-02 5:04

gt4924f

23-Mar-02 5:04

I'm not sure I understand what you mean by not being "fair" to compare the two. I'm interested in knowing if C# truly does combine the benefits of C++ (speed, flexibility) with the benefits of a RAD language (ease of use). Or am I going to take a perfomance hit by switching to .NET and managed code. I mean, I know it's not "fair" to compare a Honda Civic EX to a Ferrari 360 Modena, but I sure know which one is faster. That's all I want to know.

Nish Nishant23-Mar-02 5:33

23-Mar-02 5:33

Well then here goes :-

Unmanaged code will always run faster than managed code.
Thus unmanaged C++ will be faster than C# or any other .NET language including managed C++.

Among the managed languages, managed C++ produces slightly faster code cause the MC++ compiler has certain extra optimizations [I do not know the details, but I've heard Chris M rave about this several times]

Nish

Nemanja Trifunovic23-Mar-02 5:56

Nemanja Trifunovic

23-Mar-02 5:56

gt4924f wrote:
if C# truly does combine the benefits of C++ (speed, flexibility) with the benefits of a RAD language (ease of use).

No! C# was designed to be "easy to use", not to be fast. If you want to do some math calculations, pick either C++ (maybe with Blitz library) or Fortran. Everything else is too slow IMHO.

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Nish Nishant23-Mar-02 6:05

23-Mar-02 6:05

Nemanja Trifunovic wrote:
C# was designed to be "easy to use", not to be fast

Exactly. In fact most of .NET seems to be like that Smile | :)

Nish

Manifest thyself!

Domenic Denicola22-Mar-02 16:43

Domenic Denicola

22-Mar-02 16:43

How can I get my program's manifest file as a resource? The docs only vaguely mention it, but I can't seem to figure it out. Perhaps its simply my inferior software; I only have the freeware SharpDevelop to work with, and whenever I add it as a resource the standard way it gives me it as a System.Byte[].

I need the manifest primarily for the XP styles it provides. But needless to say, having to drag around this extra file isn't very convenient.

-Domenic Denicola- [CPUA 0x1337]
MadHamster Creations

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Re: Manifest thyself!

Russell Morris26-Mar-02 19:29

Russell Morris

26-Mar-02 19:29

From what I've seen, the embedded-resource manifest needs to be stored as a standard Win32 resource - not a .NET assembly resource.

If you've got VS5/6/.NET, you can open up your application's exe and add it manually. From what I remember, it needs to be added as a custom resource type called "RT_MANIFEST" with ID = 1. Check www.gotdotnet.com for more specifics (search for Manifest)

Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be a quick way to get the C# compiler to emit standard Win32 resources.

The other option, as you have already figured out, is to carry around the .manifest file with your exe.

--
Russell Morris

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Program Icons?

Domenic Denicola22-Mar-02 16:39

Domenic Denicola

22-Mar-02 16:39

This must be the dumbest question ever, but how can I set my program's icon (i.e., the one in Windows Explorer)? I have already tried this.Icon = ... in my main form class, and that only sets the icon of the actual form. I know this must be REALLY simple, but I've searched all the docs many times. Help??

-Domenic Denicola- [CPUA 0x1337]
MadHamster Creations

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Re: Program Icons?

AndyG22-Mar-02 18:34

AndyG

22-Mar-02 18:34

There's a few ways.

1. Right click your project in the Solution Explorer and click on Properties and in the properties pages you can set the project icon.

2. Edit the ProjectName.csproj file... the ApplicationIcon entry should be about 10 lines down.

3. The /win32icon: command line switch for the C# compiler.

Andy Gaskell, MCSD MCDBA

DataGrid Event

Mazdak22-Mar-02 4:22

22-Mar-02 4:22

I have a DataGrid,I need the event that raise,when a user DbClick on a cell or row,But I can't find it,Does anything like this exist in C# or any solution for it?

Thanks

Mazy

"So,so you think you can tell,
Heaven from Hell,
Blue skies from pain,...
How I wish,how I wish you were here."
Wish You Were Here-Pink Floyd-1975

Andres Manggini22-Mar-02 4:27

Andres Manggini

22-Mar-02 4:27

Would this work (not tested)?

Control.DoubleClick Event

[C#]
public event EventHandler DoubleClick;

Event Data
The event handler receives an argument of type EventArgs containing data related to this event.

Remarks
The ControlStyles.StandardClick style must be set for this event to be raised.

Andres Manggini.
Buenos Aires - Argentina.

Mazdak22-Mar-02 4:44

22-Mar-02 4:44

Andres Manggini wrote:
Control.DoubleClick Event

No,this raised when you double click on fixed column or cells,not regular cells.I think there is solution and thats when you want to edit a cell you have to DbClick on that cell,Do you know what event raised when it goes into edit mode?

Andres Manggini wrote:
Remarks
The ControlStyles.StandardClick style must be set for this event to be raised.

Where is that?I couldn't find it.

Thanks

Mazy

"So,so you think you can tell,
Heaven from Hell,
Blue skies from pain,...
How I wish,how I wish you were here."
Wish You Were Here-Pink Floyd-1975

Andres Manggini22-Mar-02 7:06

Andres Manggini

22-Mar-02 7:06

mmm.. I don't know, I'll see if i look into it.

this documentation is from MSDN (the one which comes with Visual Studio.NET Enterprise Edition).

Andres Manggini.
Buenos Aires - Argentina.

Mazdak22-Mar-02 7:51

22-Mar-02 7:51

Andres Manggini wrote:
this documentation is from MSDN (the one which comes with Visual Studio.NET Enterprise Edition).

Sorry,Which documentation you mean?

Mazy

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Heaven from Hell,
Blue skies from pain,...
How I wish,how I wish you were here."
Wish You Were Here-Pink Floyd-1975

Andres Manggini22-Mar-02 8:09

Andres Manggini

22-Mar-02 8:09

Microsoft Visual Studio.NET Documentation.
a blue ballon icon, with a question mark inside of it Smile | :)

Regards,

Andres Manggini.
Buenos Aires - Argentina.

James T. Johnson22-Mar-02 14:37

22-Mar-02 14:37

ControlStyles is an enumeration. Each control has one and can be set via the SetStyles() protected method on a control. You pass in the flags you want to set/unset and pass in true or false to tell whether it should set that style.

HTH,

James

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Mazdak22-Mar-02 18:36

22-Mar-02 18:36

Can you give an example please?

Thanks Smile | :)

Mazy

"So,so you think you can tell,
Heaven from Hell,
Blue skies from pain,...
How I wish,how I wish you were here."
Wish You Were Here-Pink Floyd-1975

James T. Johnson22-Mar-02 21:20

22-Mar-02 21:20

Usually you set it in the controls constructor so

public class myDataGrid : DataGrid {
  public myDataGrid() {
    SetStyle( ControlStyles.StandardClick, true );
  }
}

Now the Double click events will fire according to the documentation.

I can't tell from the documentation if the DoubleClick event will fire for everything now or if it was supposed to indicate the standard event will fire.

In anycase you should be able to hook into the DoubleClick event yourself and do some calculating to determine which cell is being clicked on.

James

Sonork ID: 100.11138 - Hasaki
"Smile your little smile, take some tea with me awhile.
And every day we'll turn another page.
Behind our glass we'll sit and look at our ever-open book,
One brown mouse sitting in a cage."
"One Brown Mouse" from Heavy Horses, Jethro Tull 1978

Mazdak23-Mar-02 3:17

23-Mar-02 3:17

hmmm,So I have to use subclassing,I never do that in C#,Can you tell me how?Is this right:

Create new class derived from DataGrid class and handle DoubleClick() event.
Then I don't know how to use it in my application.

Thanks Smile | :)

Mazy

"So,so you think you can tell,
Heaven from Hell,
Blue skies from pain,...
How I wish,how I wish you were here."
Wish You Were Here-Pink Floyd-1975

James T. Johnson23-Mar-02 14:34