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>> It's interesting to see that not a single person put down that they are ultra conservative
My boss can be ultra conservative - but that's a good thing: slowing me down swhen I get to experimental....
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Chris Maunder wrote:
because I find it sad that so many people are scared of learning new things.
What do you mean by "scared"? Maybe they just don't want to... Or maybe they simply want to "wait and see"...
Chris Maunder wrote:
We see the same FUD being spouted by people in order that they have a basis to justify them not stepping out of their comfort zone.
Nobody will want to step out of comfort zone if that means to step into an "uncomfort zone". Eg. I am seriously considering to use new C++ compiler if I find the way to plug it into the old IDE (because new IDE is not my cup of tea, never liked VI or VB style stuff). I know it's possible, and when/if I have time I am going to try it.
Chris Maunder wrote:
It's interesting to see that not a single person put down that they are ultra conservative, yet that's exactly the attitude that I see prevalent.
Just because I don't want to spend money on new VS.NET doesn't mean that I don't like new things. In fact I am digging thru a lot of new things, they are just not .NET specific. You will notice a difference between the poll about .NET and a poll about "things in gereral" (and this one appears to be the latter). .NET is still not mature anought for people to want to move, it will change with time and either it will go high up or it will sick down, only time will tell...
Chris Maunder wrote:
I also respect everyone (such as Mike Dunn) who has read up on .NET, has used the IDE, and has decided it's simply not their cup of tea.
Does trying the .NET beta count? In that case thanks Chris.
Chris Maunder wrote:
It's those who say 'my old C++ code won't compile' or 'the new compiler introduces buffer overrun vulnerabilities' without even checking that annoy me.
While you do have a point with buffer overrun, the problem with the old code is real. No, I am not giving example because I don't have the final release of .NET and I will not buy one just to prove the point. But it is something that not only individuals, but the whole companies consider as a problem. Sure enought, with time most people will move on and we will all have a good laught about it, but as for today it's the important factor. Even if it's a small amount of changes to fix it people will wait before moving on. Believe or not, there are still folks using VS50, and even occasionally you can find people working with VC1.5 and writing apps for Windows 3.1.... (BTW: not me, I use VS60 Ent. both at home and in the office).
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I agree wholeheartedly. Well said Chris. ![Beer | [beer]](https://codeproject.global.ssl.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/beer.gif)
Andy Metcalfe - Sonardyne International Ltd
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- Paul Watson
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that none have chosen "ultra conservative". Those people are still writing their code in Borland C++/Turbo C++ for DOS. They still haven't gotten a decent browser to be able to answer this poll. 
Sonorked as well: 100.13197 jorgen
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LOL
Good one Jörgen
Nish
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He left his soul, to turn you on;
Those who knew Nish, knew him well;
Those who didn't, can go to hell.
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It's the truth! I swear!
A year ago I taught computer science at the University of Karlstad. Three out of a hundred students was displeased with our choice of lab operating systems - Linux and Windows NT.
Me: "What do you wan't instead? Macintosh? OS/2?"
They: "We want DOS. It's faster and better."
Me: "So you don't want virtual memory, memory protection and all other nice services these operating systems provide you?"
They: "Nope, that's just hogging the resources."
This was during lab hours. I went back to the office to have a big strong cup of coffee. Aren't the kids/young people supposed embrace NEW technology and enhance them when they "grow" up??? You know, to get the wheel spinning.
I later found out that there is a web browser for DOS called Arachnia or something like that (which these students used). At the time, it did not support javascript, css, or anything fancy. I don't think it even rendered tables then. Given the amount of DOS users/developers out there, I estimate they'll have an enough powerful browser to actually use Codeproject at around 2012.
(I have to admit though that I use DOS occasionally to play old games such as Monkey Island. VMWare 3 + FreeDOS is a excellent combo when you're feeling retro  )
Sonorked as well: 100.13197 jorgen
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People at the bank are ultra conservative... our system is written in COBOL 
Mauricio Ritter - Brazil
Sonorking now: 100.13560 Trank
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I know of ATM's running DOS and GUI written in either Turbo Pascal or Turbo C++.
1) I know it's DOS because it rebooted just in front of me!
2) It must have been written in TP or TC++. I can spot BGI a mile away.. 
This was like 2 years ago. These machines have been replaced by Windows NT based machines. Did it get any better? No. Believe it or not, but the ATM is so "lagged", it sometimes ignores my key presses as if the CPU was under heavy load.
Where's the good old days when the ATM's worked and the screen lit up in a lovely green color?
Sonorked as well: 100.13197 jorgen
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Now, that is what I call a proffesional at work...
5/5 Chris
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