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kmoorevs9-Jan-19 7:17

kmoorevs

9-Jan-19 7:17

I have it (VS 2017) installed but rarely use it as VS 2010 still handles most of my needs, is stable and starts blazingly fast...and to think, I'm missing out on all these new features! Laugh | :laugh:

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raddevus9-Jan-19 7:46

raddevus

9-Jan-19 7:46

Oh, wait, I think he meant 2019. I didn't even notice either, but I was using 2017 with none of this and it is only since I installed 2019 that I see this junk.

Oops, he posted 2017 and I followed along thinking 2019, 2019, 2019.... Sigh | :sigh:

rkinning10-Jan-19 4:16

rkinning

10-Jan-19 4:16

VS 2010 is still my favorite as well. Only downside is it does not connect to the newer versions of SQL so you cannot debug stored procs from SQL > 2012. Other than that it is much faster than any of the newer versions.

ClockMeister10-Jan-19 23:29

ClockMeister

10-Jan-19 23:29

I still like 2008 the best, myself, but I moved to 2017 a year or so ago. Doesn't seem inordinately distracting, maybe the OP is talking the 2019 version (as others have said).

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maze39-Jan-19 22:37

maze3

9-Jan-19 22:37

Not seen 2019 yet, but when first started 2017 all the methods had weird spacing and text above them. I never wrote anything there.
Also the line numbers had spaces in them. 30 31, big gap 32 33??
Add Team Server repo, and even more text is added.

Googled wtf, found how to change to make smaller less intrusive.

But now find them very help.

Talking about method references, commit change notices and the like.

https://terabit.ca/blog/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Visual-Studio-768x480.png

2010 might have had these but can't remember.

obermd10-Jan-19 4:16

obermd

10-Jan-19 4:16

As far as I'm concerned Microsoft's UIs, across all product lines, have been getting worse since Office/VS 2010. They've gotten monochromatic and the framing features of the UI (take a look at Outlook's calendar grid lines for an example) have gotten so dim that they're useless.

The only bright spot has been the improvements in the Windows 10 context menus.

CCC 9/1 - SOLVED

PeejayAdams8-Jan-19 22:16

PeejayAdams

8-Jan-19 22:16

In essence, good-time girl books partner.(13)

Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. - Mark Twain

modified 9-Jan-19 5:12am.

OriginalGriff8-Jan-19 22:30

OriginalGriff

8-Jan-19 22:30

In essence,

good-time   FUN
girl           DAME
books              NT
partner              ALLY

FUNDAMENTALLY

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pkfox8-Jan-19 22:33

pkfox

8-Jan-19 22:33

We can’t stop here, this is bat country - Hunter S Thompson RIP

PeejayAdams8-Jan-19 23:13

PeejayAdams

8-Jan-19 23:13

Correctamundo!

Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. - Mark Twain

musefan8-Jan-19 23:23

musefan

8-Jan-19 23:23

How do you get NT from books?

glennPattonWork38-Jan-19 23:30

glennPattonWork3

8-Jan-19 23:30

I was wondering that...I always though NT was pretty easy to use...

OriginalGriff8-Jan-19 23:54

OriginalGriff

8-Jan-19 23:54

It's a traditional Crossword substitution: "Book" refers to one of the two books of the bible, the "Old Testament" (or "OT") and the updated version the "New Testament" (or "NT"). Technically, "Books" should be "OTNT" but these religious types don't seem to be over concerned with accuracy or facts ... Laugh | :laugh:

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Alan Faiers9-Jan-19 0:26

Alan Faiers

9-Jan-19 0:26

Look out for thunderbolts!

OriginalGriff9-Jan-19 0:36

OriginalGriff

9-Jan-19 0:36

I'm kinda Twoflower-ish ...

Terry Patchett wrote:
Let's just say that if complete and utter chaos were lightning, then he'd be the sort to stand on a hilltop in a thunderstorm wearing wet copper armor and shouting 'All Gods are b*st*rds'.

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Richard MacCutchan9-Jan-19 1:14

Richard MacCutchan

9-Jan-19 1:14

OriginalGriff wrote:
"Book" refers to one of the two books of the bible,

Rather "books" (not book) refers to either the Old, or the New, Testament. Each being a collection of books.

PeejayAdams9-Jan-19 1:47

PeejayAdams

9-Jan-19 1:47

Absolutely, but don't let facts get in the way of a good lightning bolt!

Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. - Mark Twain

Richard MacCutchan9-Jan-19 1:52

Richard MacCutchan

9-Jan-19 1:52

I think I am well protecte ... WT Elephant | [mastadon]

was that?

Buzz::SpringBoot

Eytukan8-Jan-19 19:01

Eytukan

8-Jan-19 19:01

What the heck!
The dog's life of a little manager.

The boss pings me and tells "May be we should consider Spring-boot for our next designs".
Him saying this, sounded reasonable. Because, even I was getting bombarded by this buzz word in recent times. Very much like the "Docker" thing. I was wishing that boss never gets to hear about Spring-boot.
But he did.

Now I need to first learn about it , to say why we should reject it.
The most primary reason - JAVA. Roll eyes | :rolleyes:

There's no rest! Why, in recent times there's a continuous invasion of newer, bugging buzzwords?
I miss the days where Microsoft takes an year to release 2.0 of any framework. D'Oh! | :doh:

(lol)

We could just learn a bunch of things & settle with for an year at least & focus on business/functional designs. Now the whole energy is getting routed to learning newer stuff.

Now wonder if I get to see a "Spring boot contest" very soon in CP Blush | :O

Full Reset

Mark_Wallace8-Jan-19 19:25

Mark_Wallace

8-Jan-19 19:25

Don't worry.

As soon as Spring arrives, you can forget Spring Boots.

The Summer Sandals framework will be the new thing.

(Maybe I should be the one writing a "bird in the hand" article. Waiting for a millennial web text-cobbler-togetherer to do it is boring)

I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

Eytukan8-Jan-19 19:29

Eytukan

8-Jan-19 19:29

Full Reset

megaadam8-Jan-19 21:37

megaadam

8-Jan-19 21:37

I agree 100% on the Java framework thing. I would not dismiss Docker as a buzzword though, but it depends of course on what you do.

"If we don't change direction, we'll end up where we're going"

#realJSOP9-Jan-19 1:14

#realJSOP

9-Jan-19 1:14

Docker is just a gimmick.

".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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RickZeeland8-Jan-19 22:26

RickZeeland

8-Jan-19 22:26

It's old hat, see this post from 2015: https://dzone.com/articles/debug-and-maintain-your-spring-boot-app[^]