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Hi All,
The company I work for is changing the way we book our time on projects at the office. The previous system was awful. The new system looks pretty much the same but with a new wizzy interface, which will only work properly with IE7(!?) the worst part is most of us use Chrome, Firefox, (bleedin') Edge and on if you want to install some system software you have to talk to the local IT and the remote IT support... The remote IT supports attitude is 'Why do you want that?, you can't have it!', I was under the impression that IE came as standard on Win10, it seems to be removed as it's a security risk...
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glennPattonWork wrote: wizzy interface ... IE7
How that come together?
MS put an EoL stamp on IE7, 8, 9 and 10 in January 2016 and your company approves some software that use it?
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge". Stephen Hawking, 1942- 2018
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glennPattonWork wrote: the way we book our time on projects at the office
I have never understood why companies would use a internally written SW for that. I mean, the requirements must be the same for about 95% of the companies, plus some extra company specific rules. Why is it not possible to use OTS is beyond me.
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glennPattonWork wrote: I was under the impression that IE came as standard on Win10, it seems to be removed as it's a security risk
Odds are, it's been taken off the Start menu, but it's still under
C:\Program Files\internet explorer\iexplore.exe
I suspect some things would be badly broken if IE was taken out altogether.
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Yup, it's there! (like a fungal infection) just plain odd, why can't 'they' understand we know how to use PC's and not inflict IE on us... 
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Bull, it's the alternative millenials who are located at the net charge, supporting the environment (11)
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We give up  answer please
We can’t stop here, this is bat country - Hunter S Thompson RIP
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Another fun day in the trenches working on a client to control some embedded stuff.
I wasted about half a day dissecting log files, seeing the scale move the way it was supposed to when the machine was dispensing product, only to crash back down to around the starting value during the let the scale stabilize/last drop fall pause, and going WTF how is that happening.
The root cause turned out to be that the recently arrived box 2 is on a wobblier table, and/or has vibrateyer mechanicals, and/or a more vibration sensitive scale by a combined factor 15x!! vs box 1 which we'd done 99% of our dev/testing on.
Box1's peak scale jitter turned out to be ~50 during the setup phase (and typically only half that), which is small enough relative to the hardware's control elsewhere not to matter. Box 2 was regularly swinging 500-750, enough to totally fubar an operation dispensing only 375.
Adding insult to injury, it didn't help that the 2 cases I dissected in the logs both had due to apparently malicious coincidence a jitter peak that ended up reaching to roughly where the dispense operation was supposed to end up. If it ended up spiking to double and dropping I'd've been more likely to catch on without burning so much time.
On the whole it's been an interesting project, but there're days when I wish I hadn't found the effort to gnaw through the restraints when the alarm went off in the morning.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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I had a similar experience about 30 years ago.
The Israeli Meteorological Service had some gadget that recorded the UV level coming from the sky in all directions, sending it as analog data to an A/D converter, which then fed it into a PC for processing. I wrote the processing software, everything worked fine and we got clean graphs of the UV levels.
A few days later, I get an angry call from the project head. Apparently, everything had gone FUBAR, and the data were garbage.
To cut a long story short, it turned out that one of their engineers had added a recorder in parallel to the A/D converter, so as to record the original analog data. The recorder was not electrically isolated, and added enough noise to the data to make it meaningless. Adding an opto-isolator to the circuit solved the problem.
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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Daniel Pfeffer wrote: Adding an opto-isolator to the circuit solved the problem.
Very cool story and solution. 
Really interesting.
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Charlie Gilley
<italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape...
"Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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Actually, you have a great story that illustrates real engineering issues. In the embedded world (I live there too), there's just too much weird s*** to break your code. I happen to work in packaging (think bottles running down a high speed line). One thing that always has to be handled is when the line stops, it almost always shifts back a little. There are a hundred other little *real* things that will render your elegant solution a bubbling mess of debris...
Charlie Gilley
<italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape...
"Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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I bet they can power several IPaqs each
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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A wild hamster runs a few miles every night to gather their stuff. They are not made to sit in a cage all day without any way to get rid of their energy.
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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CodeWraith wrote: They are not made to sit in a cage all day without any way to get rid of their energy.
reverting to basics I always thought the idea was to poke them with a sharp stick, optionally roast over a fire, then eat them in order to get energy.
Is wasting good food on a "smart" phone really smart?
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As any cat can tell you, rodents are not the best way to fill your belly. Even the cat needs to catch eight of them every night. You probably need a few more. The only good thing is that they seem to reproduce so fast that there are always enough of them to catch.
Letting the hamster do some work actually is one of the smarter ideas for a smartphone. One full charge at the price of a small bowl full of sunflower seeds. I have seen worse, but that's probably because the phone was smarter than the idiot that used it as a brain pacemaker.
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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CodeWraith wrote: They are not made to sit in a cage all day without any way to get rid of their energy.
Are you talking about developers? 
Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it.
Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.
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I've got 14 hours before getting on the road for a 6 hour road trip for a tradeshow. I haven't begun to pack yet, but am still screwing around with some of the test data and getting all the last minutes updates posted. It's going to be a long weekend. 
Did I mention that I really hate tradeshows? 
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
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