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Jeremy Falcon wrote: it's worth saying that if CP never existed I know for certain I'd never would've been as educated as I became in development. And I imagine there are plenty of others out there that would attest to the same.
Yes.
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This is the closest thing I have to a social network (hopefully the analogy doesn't offend!). Something of a home. It's the comfort zone on my left-most tab.
Work rules have kept me from posting articles on what I do (or whatever flavor it takes) - I'd like to exemplify applications that are as reusable as a well written function (or class, if you prefer). About embracing that third of these three states: true, false, don't-care.
Where else but home can you give counsel, rant, offer your two-cents worth and sometimes get a hand full of change hurled swiftly back into your face. Or, an upvote. One can even help a stranger in Q&A - now and then, an answer accepted.
Heck Hell, it's a family, clan, tribe, village, and occasionally a bad neighborhood in a bad part of town, with drive-by down-voters. A cyber world unto itself.
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W∴ Balboos wrote: Hell, it's a family, clan, tribe, village, and occasionally a bad neighborhood in a bad part of town, with drive-by down-voters. A cyber world unto itself.
You forgot to mention the embarrassing uncles everyone is ashamed of and the scary clowns. And the dickheads.
(Yes, kid sister I never had, they all look like uncle Dick.)
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I think the main difference between CP and others are two:
1. Even you are a newcomer, you can argue with the big ones... You can vote and post and display your opinion (with others you have to cross certain barriers to even post a comment)
2. CP encourages self-made-solutions, and that of course makes it less popular in our instant-world...
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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I agree CP is great and made a big impact on me, I learned a lot and learn new things every day.
For the people interested in SO (StackOverflow) here is an interesting post by Hans Passant: What is Stack Overflow’s goal? - Meta Stack Overflow[^]
So thumbs up for the creators and maintainers of CP, hurrah (3x) 
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I wouldn't be where I am today (which is pretty good) if it weren't for CP!
Signing up here has been the best thing I've done for my career and hobby.
I end up at SO for quick fixes that I need right this minute, but I come to CP to get educated and gain some long term knowledge.
So thanks Chris and everyone at CP 
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Sander Rossel wrote: I end up at SO for quick fixes that I need right this minute, but I come to CP to get educated and gain some long term knowledge.
Agreed
Jeremy Falcon
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Amen to all you said.
The difference between CP and SO for me is this:
SO is where I go for tiny code snippet examples, particularly in Javascript and Python, but sometimes C# -- almost always related to Linq.
CP is where I go for examples on how to use an entire technology stack or framework - WPF, EF, MVVM, custom controls, interesting ideas, etc.
And of course, nothing beats the forums here on CP. Not just the discussions and cool/fun/humorous/etc things people post, but the forum layout is IMO the "nonpareils" of forums.
Marc
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Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny
Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802
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Exactly. SO is great when you're looking for the one-liner with the weird syntax you can never get right. CP's longer articles are for putting everything into context.
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I love this place.
I come here to read the latest. And I have been helped immensely here while chastised at SO.
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CP is my left-most tab, the first one I open each and every morning before I have my first coffee! It sits there all day, waiting to provide help, education and occasional amusement.
I started writing code when all you needed was a hammer and chisel... perhaps a slight exaggeration... but I joined CP back in the days when dinosaurs roamed the Earth and have never regretted the small amount of effort I put into it.
Well done to Chris Maunder and all the hamsters on your excellent work! ![Java | [Coffee]](https://codeproject.global.ssl.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/coffee.gif)
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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Well said. CP is the best developer site on the web, bar none.
If you need a question answered maybe take a look at CP or SO, but if you want to learn something then CP is the place to go.
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Amen to that brother.
Jeremy Falcon
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Vunic - Yet another engine built with CP platform.  I learnt 70% of the stuff through CP. It's a major contributor for my career. I've grasped so much of things through articles here & by trying to answer the questions posted in Q/A forums.
And guess what, it's also given me a cute, funny signature 
No matter how many great 3D games come up daily and become super popular, I always go back and play this particular classic game Age Of Empires 2. I feel the same with CP. It's classic, I wouldn't even want the UI to change. I've settled here so comfortably. Though I don't frequent as much as I did years back, I'm always lurking around, keeping touch & posting things in Lounge.
And mate, I remember it so clear, you took years long break from CP, and then you were back. You wasted years, didn't you ?
Starting to think people post kid pics in their profiles because that was the last time they were cute - Jeremy Falcon.
modified 31-Jul-17 6:42am.
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To me, there is no comparison between SO and CP.
I'm professional developer with decades of experience, but generally I don't post on SO because I'm scared. It seems that no matter how much effort you put into writing a good question for SO, someone will mark it duplicate and someone will call you an idiot for not being a coding demigod. And the fact that there is absolutely no time-out element to their scoring system is absurd. I have questions a decade old dragging my score down. It has been suggested I revise them to try to get a positive score, but I'd have to find a machine running NT and a ten-year-old compiler to do so. I've even spent about two hours writing questions with full downloadable solutions demonstrating the problem and not received a single up-vote. It all feels very cliquey.
CP is much friendlier. Obviously, it is only fair that you try to solve your own problems before posting and try to write the best question you can, but sometimes just the act of posting kicks your brain into a different slot and you suddenly see what you were doing wrong. I'm sure we've all been there - getting stuck in one mode of thinking, just needing a helpful prod in the right direction. I've done that on CP many times. Sometimes I will reply to my own question with an answer usually containing the word 'Doh!' and many times I've received helpful pointers from other members about what I am doing wrong, to which I've replied with an answer containing the words 'Thank you!' and 'Doh!'. But I don't think I have ever been made to feel an idiot here on CP.
So please keep up the currently open and friendly format CP. I for one feel I owe you a debt I could never hope to repay.
PS - Oh, and a big thank you to anyone who has taken the time to look at my (sometimes stupid) questions over the years!
Thank you to anyone taking the time to read my posts.
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I agree wholeheartedly. Thanks for posting your thanks and giving the rest of us the opportunity to join in.
I have been a lurker and occasional contributor almost since the beginning and have found it an immensely valuable source of information and support as well as a place to chill a little and find some humour. There's also been some pretty serious stuff in the lounge on occasions and it seems to me the community has come together to support others in ways that have had little or nothing to do with coding.
Thanks to @chris-maunder and the team! Please don't let anything here change drastically; continue the ongoing organic development.
Phil
The opinions expressed in this post are not necessarily those of the author, especially if you find them impolite, inaccurate or inflammatory.
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I am only a reader but find something interesting every day. I would also like to congratulate whoever it is that writes the sarcastic comments under each header that give me many a laugh.
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Well said! I came here seeking answers and found a great community!
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
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Mate: thanks for the kind words, but mostly thanks you and everyone else here has given software developers who, like ourselves many moons ago, were just starting and trying to find their way.
It's hard. We're strange people. We're smart, a little arrogant, and generally don't suffer fools lightly but the group we have here are the kindest, most patient coaches and teachers I've ever seen.
You guys are amazing.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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You're welcome man. And I absolutely agree on all fronts.
Jeremy Falcon
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Hi Chris,
I joined CP in June 2007 and its witty, no BS tone has kept me an avid reader of the Daily News and Lounge Discussions.
This is my first posting and I bet there are many silent others like me who value the sanity that CP offers in an officially humourless world that values BS over fact.
Thank you very much Chris for keeping CP on track all these years.
Good on you, mate.
Cheers,
David
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Therein lies the difference between sentient beings that can ask questions and the rest of us. 
Marc
Latest Article - Create a Dockerized Python Fiddle Web App
Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny
Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802
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Sentience is the ability to feel and possibly suffer. The ability to ask questions is not required.
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