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Nice. Always enjoy strong vocals.
Charlie Gilley
<italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape...
"Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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As far as I've observed, the lesser technically precise ones prefer calls.
Where they can bluff around randomly about things and go unnoticed. They fear chat as things have to be concise and precise and it's easily copied and circulated around.
Many times while explaining the requirement over call, I see no meaning in it. The explainer gets a free ride wasting time and finally says , "I think there's some missing blocks". (APPARENTLY!) Okay we'd revisit this again tomorrow.
This has been happening for a very long time. as so-called "Requirement discussion"
Now , I had to force one session towards Slack instead of phone call. Guess what? it was taking so much time for him to type a single meaningful statement. Please note he usually types faster while chatting about non-work topics. I just hate random calls.
Starting to think people post kid pics in their profiles because that was the last time they were cute - Jeremy.
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Same reason why people rather call the "developer" than write a bug-report.
Yup, normal behaviour.
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
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I prefer a call - where information can be transferred far faster and less painfully.
Similarly, I don't like waiting around for my turn amongst all the other conversations the chat-help drone is trying to handle along with mine.
It's an inch-by-inch affair, and from my experience, the busier they are (as measured by delays) the more the information they request is in small bits so they can give you smaller time-slices.
Or, perhaps you'd prefer to tweet, cutting down on the chatter?
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I read "Phone call vs Cat".
Expected cats and something funny, but got heavily disappointed 
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Don't be disappointed.[^]
"You'd have to be a floating database guru clad in a white toga and ghandi level of sereneness to fix this goddamn clusterfuck.", BruceN[ ^]
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Funny cat videos on the interwebz? Mate, what were you thinking?!
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I just hate random calls. period.
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When you say "chat"...do you mean, like, on-line chat like Sype\Slack etc?
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I hate calls most of the time. They yank me out of whatever I'm working on, take way too long, and have a terrible signal-to-noise ratio. I'd say for every minute on the phone, I get about 5-10 seconds worth of useful information.
E-mails or other forms of text are much better... They don't interrupt my flow state, they can be glanced at and ignored if they're not useful, and any unhelpful bits can be quickly skimmed over.
Granted, there are exceptions on both sides... Some calls are useful, and some-- most e-mails are spam.
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With me working with various people from different nationality and heavy accents, I always prefer a chat or email to make sure all are in same page.
cheers,
Super
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Too much of good is bad,mix some evil in it
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I prefer not to be bothered at all, but so far, that's not working for me! 
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
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I'd have to say most of the time I prefer a phone call provided I'm talking to the right person (non-technical people need not be there), and the subject is kept on point. Occasionally I have to get, what some may consider rude, when the conversation gets off topic, but I think we can gauge each others' understanding of the topic quicker than with emails. Ambiguities can be dealt with faster with simple questions.
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
"Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst
"I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle
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I prefer chat or email. They provide easily referenced documentation of the requirements and the conversation, and allow me time to think about them and respond with comments or questions.
If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP.
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...when a bug in your code go un-noticed during a client demo. [^]
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hands up every one who has done that!
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count me in
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Been there... done that.
Jeremy Falcon
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Hi All,
I went for an interview yesterday and managed to get a copy of my CV that was sent. It was litterally a badly chopped down version of my CV, for instance it looked like I had one GCSE in Chemistry, everything of interest including my experience with Altera tool chain was taken off. If you look at that CV I can start to think the Arts Grads take any term they are not familiar with out leaving not very much. The roles I have applied to that I though thats me and I heard nothing from could be due to the creative edits made... 
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You have a GCSE in Chemistry! Wow!
(I have two: one from my O level, and one from my A level: if you fail the A sufficiently, you get an O instead!)
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Tried A Level Chemistry, still have nightmares!
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Sounds like you were as good at it as me!
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Yes, my 'A' level Economics ended up being an 'O'. Probably explains why I'm always broke! Funny thing is I got 'A's in everything else (erm, OK... a couple of 'B's but who's counting?)
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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This is common practice and you right; the good agents know what to keep, the bad ones just guess. Note: no one cares that you have GCSEs - it's detail that is not relevant to the job. A degree is fine to note and any pro certificates that are current. Just my tuppence worth.
This is getting on a bit but is still reasonable advice: Contracting for Dummies: The CV/Resume[^]
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