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R. Giskard Reventlov23-Jul-16 4:55

R. Giskard Reventlov

23-Jul-16 4:55

Never acquired a taste for it. Phew, seven less ways to die for me. Smile | :)

KarstenK23-Jul-16 6:34

KarstenK

23-Jul-16 6:34

And not drinking causing some other cancer? ... Unsure | :~

Press F1 for help or google it.
Greetings from Germany

Mark_Wallace23-Jul-16 6:47

Mark_Wallace

23-Jul-16 6:47

Far and away the biggest causes of lethal cancer -- to the degree that nothing else is even in the same ballpark -- are oxygen and sunlight.

Unless you give up those two, there's precious little point in giving up anything else.

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Ron Anders23-Jul-16 6:47

Ron Anders

23-Jul-16 6:47

Well sure, what do you expect from something that is a cleaning solvent and can propel a A/FC funny car over 200 mph in the 1/4 mile?

Smoke dope, smoke dope, everybody smoke dope.

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Afzaal Ahmad Zeeshan23-Jul-16 9:02

Afzaal Ahmad Zeeshan

23-Jul-16 9:02

But Alcohol will also help you forget that you just got a cancer. Smile | :)

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ZurdoDev23-Jul-16 17:46

ZurdoDev

23-Jul-16 17:46

Brisingr Aerowing wrote:
Alcohol is a direct cause of seven forms of cancer, finds study[^]

Science: ruining fun for everyone.

It has been known for a long time so if your fun just got ruined, I hope you enjoyed it while it lasted. $Shucks | :-\$

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Joe Woodbury25-Jul-16 7:02

Joe Woodbury

25-Jul-16 7:02

Just wait; this "study" will be debunked.

Even the article goes from certainty in the headline to "probably" within a few paragraphs. It wasn't even a study, but one person looking at what appear to be opinion pieces by various international cancer funds. The author's history also suggests she decided to find a link and allegedly found one.

(Not even a drinker, just annoyed at opinion masquerading as science.)

MT_23-Jul-16 1:41

MT_

23-Jul-16 1:41

Hi OG
And All,

I am planning to bite the bullet finally and upgrade to Win10 (from windows 8.1) ! Unsure | :~

So, taking advice from many discussion here on CP, I thought of taking precautions (read backup). And I have few questions.
1. Do I download from www.aomeitech.com ?
2. My C drive (and only one) has about 300 GB data. How much space I need on external HDD?
3. In case of event I need to rollback, how will it work ? Will it create a bootable CD or something ?

And for general upgrade: If I do in-place upgrade (or whatever that is called), will it have one drive only or it will give me option to partition? Or should I partition before?

Any other precautions?

Thanks in advance..

Thanks,
Milind

OriginalGriff23-Jul-16 2:16

23-Jul-16 2:16

1) Yes: AOMEI Backupper: Data Backup and Restore Software for PC, Laptop and Server[^]
2) Depends n what the data is! Laugh | :laugh:

Some stuff compresses better that others (video for example doesn't compress well because it's already compressed). As a guide, my C: (Os and apps) plus my D: (data) is around 320GB, and backs up to about 191GB using the default compression.
3) You create a bootable CD / DVD / USB which contains WinPE from the Utilities menu in the app. That loads a "Windows Preinstallation Environment" when booted that lets you restore over your HDD. It works: first thing I did was do a "check restore" onto a "spare" HDD when I had completed my first backup.

If you are talking upgrade to SDD, then use Backuper first, then use the Partition Assistant from the same company which has an option for upgrades - and it worked well for me! It will let you play with partition sizes before and after the upgrade.

Me? I like to separate OS & apps from Data, and if you only have space for a single drive (lappy for example) then partitioning is a good idea. But...if you aren't partitioned already, it's a PITA to separate the two afterwards as nearly every app stores where it wants to store data differently... Sigh | :sigh:

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MT_23-Jul-16 2:24

MT_

23-Jul-16 2:24

The laptop came with 1 TB (DELL ones come with single partition, don't know why they do that) and I was in so hurry to start working that I installed everything and later realized that I need to partition...

So now, I have data of 300 GB in 1 TB harddisk, people say that I can partition with s/w like partition-magic without loosing data. But having only one laptop (for work) I am reluctant to take that risk..
Hence question, should I partition before upgrade to Win-10 (I am planning to try in-place upgrade first)..

Thanks,
Milind

OriginalGriff23-Jul-16 2:36

23-Jul-16 2:36

You can re-partition without loosing any data - I did it using AOMEI Partition Assistant when I was happy with my SSD. The original setup was 1TB HDD split 50/50 as C and D. When the SSD was fine, I used PA to repartition the HDD to a 1TB single partition and had no problems at all.
If you are doing an inplace upgrade, then I wouldn't partition first - you won't know if a failing app is because of the upgrade or you missed it's data when you tried to split them.

What I'd probably do is upgrade, see what happens, and then maybe re-install everything from scratch at a later date onto a partitioned disk.
To be honest, with only one physical disk any partitioning only brings a logical benefit - a disk failure is going to scrap both partitions, not just one!

I'd also recommend doing a backup before the upgrade and a second one when the upgrade is complete. Probably unnecessary, but external drives are a lot cheaper than time these days! Laugh | :laugh:

Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

MT_23-Jul-16 5:26

MT_

23-Jul-16 5:26

Thanks for all the advises Smile | :)

Lappy came with 1 TB and I have 1 TB ext. HDD. So, for now, I will go ahead as you said: backup, upgrade, test for few days and then partition.. You are right that it won't help in hardware failure but at least in OS issues, it helps a little.
But before all that let me make sure my other oldie laptop can connect to internet else I will be in stone-age without help in case of any issue... D'Oh! | :doh:

Thanks,
Milind

Brisingr Aerowing23-Jul-16 2:37

Brisingr Aerowing

23-Jul-16 2:37

My laptop has two drives.

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Do questions with multiple question marks annoy you???

Michael Martin23-Jul-16 2:41

Michael Martin

23-Jul-16 2:41

Brisingr Aerowing wrote:
My laptop has two drives.

And it still doesn't work.

Michael Martin
Australia

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OriginalGriff23-Jul-16 3:56

23-Jul-16 3:56

You're a cruel man...

Accurate, but cruel! Laugh | :laugh:

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Brisingr Aerowing23-Jul-16 4:46

Brisingr Aerowing

23-Jul-16 4:46

It looks like there was a manufacturing fault when the DC power jack was installed.

kmoorevs23-Jul-16 4:59

kmoorevs

23-Jul-16 4:59

Brisingr Aerowing wrote:
It looks like there was a manufacturing fault when the DC power jack was installed.

That's what my step-son told me when the pin broke out of the power jack of his 3 month old laptop...this was right after I saw him dragging it across the floor with the cord. That was the last laptop we ever bought him! Laugh | :laugh:

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Brisingr Aerowing23-Jul-16 6:17

Brisingr Aerowing

23-Jul-16 6:17

The jack was intact, but pushed in some.

Achievement unlocked

Sander Rossel23-Jul-16 0:15

Sander Rossel

23-Jul-16 0:15

So I asked out a cashier at the local store. Really very cute girl.
I've been planning it for weeks, even trying to ask her out a few times, but failed due to completely freaking out and only being able to say the mandatory "Hi. Receipt please. Thanks. Bye." (at least that came out pretty normal).
But this week I really did it and it wasn't so bad Big Grin | :-D

Too bad she already had a boyfriend... Ah well Sigh | :sigh:

At least I overcame my shyness and went for it Cool | :cool:

Pretty proud of myself Big Grin | :-D

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Regards,
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OriginalGriff23-Jul-16 0:24

23-Jul-16 0:24

Nice one!

Pity about the boyfriend, but who knows? Keep chatting to her and if they split up one day...

It's never easy, is it - except when drunk, when it's generally unsuccessful! Laugh | :laugh:

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Sander Rossel23-Jul-16 0:38

Sander Rossel

23-Jul-16 0:38

OriginalGriff wrote:
It's never easy, is it - except when drunk, when it's generally unsuccessful!

I'm never drunk. Maybe two or three times in my life. It's hard when you don't drink beer or wine... Sigh | :sigh:

Last time I was I left the club with a girl on each arm though. Too bad they were gone by the time I got home Laugh | :laugh:

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Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need.
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Regards,
Sander

CDP180223-Jul-16 1:45

CDP1802

23-Jul-16 1:45

OriginalGriff wrote:
It's never easy, is it - except when drunk, when it's generally unsuccessful!

That's true for most people, but I know someone who was specialized on that. I would not have believed it if I had not seen it a few times.

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This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.

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OriginalGriff23-Jul-16 2:01

23-Jul-16 2:01

In the past - when I drank - I was indeed successful several times (probably due to the sheer volume of attempts).
However in nearly all the cases, the following morning I wished I hadn't been... Unsure | :~

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Mark_Wallace23-Jul-16 2:12

Mark_Wallace

23-Jul-16 2:12

Yup[^].

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