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Wow... maybe I'll just stay with Windows 7 for another few years. 
Contrary to popular belief, nobody owes you anything.
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Well, you've got just under 5 years left till end of life[^]. I'm upgrading now because the switch to a new box means an upgrade glitch doesn't turn into a show stopper; and because despite MS's promises that it'll just work, I'm very leery of the claim that I'll be able to upgrade directly from 7 to 10 later this year.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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It's currently downloading the second set of 8.0 patches (1.3GB this time) before it'll even think of downloading 8.1 from the store...
And !Bugger! I've still got to remove the McAfee that comes preinstalled, and it has put back on...
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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OriginalGriff wrote: I've still got to remove the McAfee that comes preinstalled, and it has put back on...
Don't forget to run the McAfee removal tool[^] after uninstalling it to make sure it's actually uninstalled.
How to uninstall or re-install supported McAfee products using the Consumer Products Removal tool[^]
Then use Autoruns[^] to check whether the removal tool has managed to remove itself. I was still seeing crashes from a randomly-named exe in the Windows temp directory, which turned out to be the removal tool trying to remove itself on startup. 
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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I was considering this[^] McAfee removal tool, but I guess I'll only get complaints...
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Sounds like you're having better luck than I did anyway. Not sure what my totals were since the reboot after each incremental barf triggered a refresh of the list adding to the available patches before I cleared the first set.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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When all is fixed: Consider the possibility to take an image of her system's drive using an external drive and a utility like Acronis. Acronis can take the image, but it also can create bootable media on a CD or USB drive, which you can later use to restore the drive to a previous image. Restoring an image takes about 15 minutes or so, compared to hours of work to rebuild the system. If your external drive is a Western Digital product, you can get a free WD version of Acronis from the WD website.
I also maintain Windows machines for a number of family members and Acronis has saved me days of frustrating effort on a number of occasions.
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OriginalGriff wrote: Am I on Candid Camera or something?
I was thinking the same thing yesterday. My wife's all-in-one with Win8.1 had me yelling expletives yesterday, and I still don't have it fixed. It just freezes either during startup or shortly after...no mouse input, no keyboard input, no touchscreen input. The only way out is a hard shutdown, which I must have done over a dozen times yesterday. 
The only restore point was about 10 days ago, and I was able to get it back to that state OK, and it seemed to be fine for about 5 minutes, then it froze again at which point I walked away from it. It appears to be a driver issue, so I'll try safe mode next. If that fails, I'll be restoring it back to factory settings with Win8.0 and rebuilding it.
Also frustrating is the fact that it refuses to boot from a CD despite changing the BIOS and making sure that the CD will boot on another system!
As much as I hate working on other people's stuff, it's still better than having to work on mine! 
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
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I would at least send her a bill stating that an acceptable payment will be in fine food and beverage.
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"Mary, I'm just having one more pint with the lads. If I'm not home in 20 minutes, read this message again"
grabbing my coat...
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Just posted it to my wife. 
Once you lose your pride the rest is easy.
In the end, only three things matter: how much you loved, how gently you lived, and how gracefully you let go of things not meant for you. – Buddha
Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
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I hope your wife's name is Mary or you have changed it in message.
If not, you're doomed...
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Jarek Kruza wrote: I hope your wife's name is Mary
I hate when that happens.
Once you lose your pride the rest is easy.
In the end, only three things matter: how much you loved, how gently you lived, and how gracefully you let go of things not meant for you. – Buddha
Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
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Have you been reading @Andy-L-J's texts? 
veni bibi saltavi
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For new job, I am setting up a pilot project right now.
They suggested I use StyleCop. They suggested I remove all the rule I don't like, but at least it's there to check a few things worth checking...
Playing with it right now..
I see plenty of useless or annoying rule...
What are your thoughs and/or experience with that?
rule about space, tabs, bracket after a if.. feeling like removing them...
rule about space around comma! 
rule requiring a space after '//' 
some rules about commenting... well it's wishful but it's cumbersome.. particularly as I have verbatim copy paste code I now have to comment as well... a little unsure about that...
rule about prefixing with "this." gonna flat remove those...
rule requiring a #region block around using statement! 
rule requiring to order method by protection level (public first, private last): absolutely set against that! I like grouping method by use, if 2 method work together, they must be next to each other (preferably)
I think that, basically, I just don't like StyleCop! Bummer!
I was trying to be more political this year! 
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Except for these: "prefixing with this." and "the #region thingy "
I would keep all of them. All. And I am not kidding.
And I guess that we are talking "C#". Then most of these can be implemented in VisualStudio's autformatting to make it automatic for the coders. Just enforce/encourage to share that config among all.
Well... you asked : )
Life is too shor
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Me was thinking , if I really don't care about style, I could keep them after all!
So me think, perhaps I do care about style hey?
At any rate I will certainly NOT keep the rule where things (method property, event) should be order by access level and type! I rather keep related things together, like the backing filed of a property next to it!
And I am not too sure about documentation everywhere. It's nice to have, but what if you copy some code project library source code in my libraries... might have to spend day documenting... plus, worse than that, people might comment wrong! since.. it's annoying...
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If you're allowed to turn off rules you don't agree with, then this gives you the opportunity to set the coding standard for this pilot - which sounds like a fair amount of trust in your decisions
The method/property/event ordered by access type sounds like something with little payoff vs grouping similar methods ec together. If you don't like it, and you're given the green light to work out which rules should be enforced, then just turn it off.
Maybe if you are not sure about a rule, leave it on for a while and see if the resulting code ends up cleaner or easier for your teammates to quickly get up to speed with your code.
Having to document every public method also sounds like overkill unless you are creating a library for third parties to use.
Kent
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If you feel that strongly about a public and private method belonging together to the exclusion of another public method, that is probably a code smell that they belong in another class, together.
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Out of curiosity, are you using StyleCop? or are you talking hypothetically?
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I do not. We perform exactly the same task (in C++) manually in code reviews. And we are about to introduce a tool that fixes the formatting automagically at every git push.
It hurts my eyes to read inconsistent code like this.
if( check_func(a,b, c ,d)) {
process(long_Name ); }
else if ( verifyFUNC( zzz))
{
discard( shrtNme);
}
I really large software projects (+1.000.000 lines, +50 people), a bit of consistency is fairly nice. So the point is not so much rule A vs. rule B as simply consistency.
Life is too shor
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Kudos...
Humans can adapt to various standards quick enough (IMHO). So,
having basic standards, and using tools to help enforce them is good.
I have some bad habits from my Pascal/Delphi days (If/Then vs. if/then),
that get fixed up for me.
But it SUCKS when you are trying to get up to speed on a bunch of code,
and EVERYONE used a different indentation/BRACE approach (as in your example).
I prefer the BRACES on their own line. But I can adapt to any consistent code base.
An inconsistent one (like your post above) drives me batty!
Kirk Out!
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I really like the this. rule. I used to use Stylecop, once it got me in to good habits I do find that my code naturally comes out cleaner now.
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Ahh, Dogma Driven Development (DDD) and your personal Big brother to enforce evry single rule. Why does that thing not write the code by itself as long as it knows everything better?
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
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Couldn't agree more. I wish that the tool provided automatic re-formatting where possible.
Better yet, I'd prefer that the lenses in my eyes would automatically reformat code the way that I find it most helpful.
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