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I am not allowed to post instructions, however , I hope it is OK to post suggestion.
I have been watching too many "spaghetti western movies " - strictly as a needed break from drudgery of coding.
Their plots are not very imaginative - most of them have fists fights in local saloon.
And that, sometime whisky induced brawl, what promoted this vent.
This subforum , in my opinion, is turning into verbal fistfights by few illiterate, "me first" , outlaws and my hope is it will not end with OK corral style gun fight.
adios amigos
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Salvatore Terress wrote: This subforum , in my opinion, is turning into ...
And we all know who is responsible.
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Warning. Someone is posting strange messages and signing your name to them. 
>64
It’s weird being the same age as old people. Live every day like it is your last; one day, it will be.
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Salvatore Terress wrote: I hope it is OK to post suggestion
Sure it is! But alas, this is not the place. Try, Bugs and Suggestions[^]. Keep trying, you'll get there.
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
"Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst
"I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle
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jeron1 wrote: Keep trying, you'll get there.
Procul, procul, o este profani!
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Well, today is my 90th. What happened to the time?
tl:dr Happy Birthday to me.
I was thinking about what significant developments I have seen. The power of smartphones pales in comparison to some.
Indoor plumbing, yes there were still outhouses back in the day.
I recall WWII, especially the end. Gold stars in the windows. Never be another generation like that.
My father participated in a program named something like bundles for Britain. He made a lifelong snail mail (priceless) friend.
Vaccines (sorry anti-vaxers). My best friend through high school died of Polio.
Medicine: Antibiotics, cancer treatments (my mother died of leukemia, the treatment back then was "eat a lot of red meat"), today's surgery techniques (Wow). Much more. Now AI?
Our first television, 1948, black and white, largest screen available: 10". Weighed a ton. Watched the world series.
Power steering, power brakes and automatic transmissions.
EV's? Won't go there.
My first "computer experience", actually an accounting system, 7 words of core memory, vacuum tubes (valves for you right ponders) could only add, subtract and multiply. People ran payroll on it. Slow? you bet.
My first experience with a computer monitoring open heart surgery patients. 1970.
etc, etc, etc.
Just a Thought:
A Keeper
Their marriage was good, their dreams focused.
Their best friends lived barely a wave away.
I can see them now,
Dad in trousers, tee shirt and a hat and Mom in a house dress,
lawn mower in one hand, and dish-towel in the other.
It was the time for fixing things.
A curtain rod, the kitchen radio, screen door, the oven door, the hem in a dress.
Things we keep.
It was a way of life, and sometimes it made me crazy.
All that re-fixing, eating, renewing,
I wanted just once to be wasteful.
Waste meant affluence.
Throwing things away meant you knew there would always be more.
But then my mother died, and on that clear summer's night,
in the warmth of the hospital room,
I was struck with the pain of learning that sometimes there isn't any more.
Sometimes, what we care about most gets all used up and goes away...
never to return.
So... While we have it... it's best we love it...
And care for it.... And fix it when it's broken.....
And heal it when it's sick.
This is true...
For marriage....
And old cars....
And children with bad report cards.....
Dogs and cats with bad hips....
And aging parents....
And grandparents.
We keep them because they are worth it, because we are worth it.
Some things we keep.
Like a best friend that moved away or a classmate we grew up with.
There are just some things that make life important,
like people we know who are special....
And so, we keep them close!
I received this from someone who thinks I am a 'keeper',
so I've sent it to the people I think of in the same way...
Good friends are like stars....
You don't always see them, but you know they are always there
People are made to be Loved
and Things are made to be Used
There is so much confusion in this World because
People are being Used
and
Things are being Loved.
Be kind... everyone you meet is fighting a terrible battle.
Thanks for being part of MY life!
>64
It’s weird being the same age as old people. Live every day like it is your last; one day, it will be.
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Happy birthday and thanks for sharing your story!
Makes me wonder if there are even older CodeProject members ...
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I'm eleven years behind you, but a lot of what you wrote resonates with me. Happy Birthday ![Rose | [Rose]](https://codeproject.freetls.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/rose.gif)
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Happy birthday.
I experienced some but not all, just a whippersnapper 75.
If you can't find time to do it right the first time, how are you going to find time to do it again?
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Yup. If I had known I would live this long, I would have taken better care of myself 
Started out with Assembler and Fortran (only choices back in the day).
Now, I can't keep up so I cobble together Python scripts.
Fortunately, Chris's GPAI does what I need for our 14 cameras and Blue Iris.
>64
It’s weird being the same age as old people. Live every day like it is your last; one day, it will be.
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Thanks for sharing this and happy birthday.
Jeremy Falcon
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 Very inspirational! Thanks for sharing and Happy Birthday!
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
"Hope is contagious"
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Thanks all!!
>64
It’s weird being the same age as old people. Live every day like it is your last; one day, it will be.
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I started my software development career using FORTRAN, taught myself C, suffered through Pascal and despise Visual Basic. I'm an EE that just learned how to do this. Back in the beginning, there were no IDEs just text editors, so I naturally developed the habit of putting one function in one file. As I moved on to C++, I continued this style with my class development - one class per file. I suppose I picked up this style from the people I worked with, early source control systems I used (CMS/MMS anyone?) and what not.
Now I admit I am no C++ guru. I have seen people on stack overflow answer a C++ question with so much mind numbing detail that my eyes glaze. I view some or most of the esoteric aspects of c++ (like operator overloading) as dubious at best. Sounds good initially but later on in maintenance, ugh.
So, coding style question - do you embed classes within classes? I suppose if the object is never used outside of it's main file, it sort of makes sense. But it makes it a $itch to track things down. Then, other modules that include the header file for the parent start referencing the embedded classes, and it becomes spaghetti code. I know it's valid C++, but....
Thoughts? I'm probably just being a curmudgeon. Currently doing battle with lifting a VC6 project to VS2022. To say it's "interesting" is putting it lightly but that's for another post.
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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I never nest classes in any languages - one class one file ( 2 in c++ )
In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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I've done it, I'm not proud of it.
IMO, there is no real benefits.
On of the problems is that if you have nested classes in a public header, it makes things soooo much more fun (in a bad way), especially if the inner class is public.
CI/CD = Continuous Impediment/Continuous Despair
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I do, but the embedded classes are always marked private - they are only accessible within the containing class.
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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yeah, no private at all listed...
it doesn't help that VS2022 has some of the most ridiculous compiler errors. One error typically generates N other gripes.
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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Every time I've embedded classes inside another class, some new requirement down the road requires I remove this embedded class and make it stand on its own.
I will occasionally put two classes in a file, especially when one is the <type t=""> for a custom collection class. The collection class is usually very short (<40 lines) and I put it at the top of the file so both classes are visible on the first screen in the IDE.
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happy to see it's not just me.
The only two times I have seen this style, they both came from CS grads whiz kids. I'm now going through a lot of code from WK#1 where he forgot to initialize a bunch of variables.
Side note: I know VS2022 allows you to ignore uninitialized variables, but why in God's good name would you ever turn that off? Been burned to many times by everything working in debug and phantom failures in release.
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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Statement 1: Every rule has an exception.
Statement 2: Statement 1 is a rule. Therefore Statement 1 has an exception.
Conclusion: There is at least one rule which has no exception.
Would you agree with this conclusion? If so, is there any example of a rule having no exception?
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Friends don't let friends program in Basic.
If you can't find time to do it right the first time, how are you going to find time to do it again?
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Kurt Gödel proved a version of Statement 1:
In any formal language, there are questions that can be asked but not answered.
A perfect example of Gödel's incompleteness law can be found in math:
- Positive Integers (lengths) can subtract a larger number from a smaller number. The answer is a negative integer, leading to:
- All integers can divide and result in a fraction, leading to:
- Fractions can be used in geometry to result in real numbers, leading to:
- Real Numbers can have square roots that are imaginary, leading to:
- Complex numbers, etc...
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