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Wow! That is cheap!  I'm still wondering what the catch is with free and cheap certificates...
Anyhow, thanks to all who offered advice! Now enjoy what's left of your weekend! 
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
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There is a reason not to use your self-generated SSL?
I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is. (V)
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As long as you don't need anyone to trust your certificate, e.g. if you hold both ends of all communication where the certificate will be used, and there is no way whatsoever that anyone can inject traffic on that communication line, masquerading himself with another self-signed certificate pretending to be you, then self-signing is perfectly safe.
But then you probably have limited need of SSL at all.
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SSL have two purposes:
1. Add a level of cryptography to the communication between client and server. For that a self signed certificate more than enough..
2. Prove to client (and sometimes the other way around) that the server is who he claims to be. For that you have to choose a 3rd party - trusted by the client - and get certificate from him...
I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is. (V)
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Do you need the certificate just for your own needs and to get the technology working? Use a self signed certificate.
If the purpose that your customers should be protected from man in the middle attacks, use a reputable certificate that actually check who you are.
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Could someone list of couple of places for ones that are reputable? I was looking at Namecheap.com the other day, still trying to figure out one for a decent price, but that I wouldn't have any complications with at the same time.
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If you use Windows tools, and want an easy life, don't get one that is 'extra validation' from Entrust....
few of the GUI tools support it, leaving you at the command line... while not 'hard', it's not simple or nice!
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We use Entrust and so do some of our banking partners. Their cloud based management tool allows us to manage things once we've order the first time around. We used VeriSign but found that Entrust was just as good and was a little cheaper.
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I have used GoDaddy's SSL. They are fairly cheap and they have some good tutorials.
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Thanks, Google.
WTF is "Eastern Time"? Time since the birth of Mao? Something to do with Scheherazade? Mongolian sheep-dung-decay time?
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Is this only sarcasm or is there an actual question? (I assume its in the USA[^] time zones it reffers to)
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Yeah, I see that -- "All Times ET" -- on FOX's MLB schedules as well. Not much help when trying to watch the local game.
You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.
modified 14-Jun-14 14:32pm.
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I used to work for a company that broadcast television to the whole of Europe, Africa and the middle East. Don't talk to me about time zones!!! They were the bane of my life. Because of stupid daylight saving time we were obliged to modify the start of day times for almost every single channel (nearly 100 at that time). Thank goodness for SQL. Made my life so much easier.
I may not last forever but the mess I leave behind certainly will.
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Well, what do you think they should use, UTC? Do you honestly believe that anyone except programmers and those living outside of the US even know what UTC is? People in the US probably think UTC is a form of contraceptive.
Marc
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I hate to mention this but I worked on a project where I could never get our American programmers and analysts to fully understand time zones, including UTC (where's that).
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"It's British for GMT"
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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OriginalGriff wrote: "It's BritishForeign for GMT"
FTFY.
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"It's British Foreign Texan for GMT"
Except in Texas, where they use
"It's British Foreign Californian for GMT"
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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Actually, it's not British. Its French.
Universal Time Coordinated (dumb Frogs can't even get sentence structure correct).
Jim
aka dumb American ham radio operator who, along with 700,000 other dumb American ham radio operators, only uses UTC when logging radio contacts.
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and a every single pilot that ever got a weather briefing... although we tend to call it ZULU
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Except that [generally] GMT gets adjusted for Daylight Savings, UTC does not (at least in my experience - not to say I'm any kind of expert here).
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Nope, GMT stands for Greenwich Mean Time, and is not adjusted - the UK switches between GMT and BST (GMT + 1) for winter and summer respectively.
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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Interesting. I'll look into that on our servers. I've seen the GMT reference (yes I know what GMT is short for), but not a BST. but you are right - there is a separate check box for whether to adjust for DST. We have our severs set to UTC for consistency...
Thanks for the info...
Mark
(just a cog in the wheel in Denver, CO)
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OriginalGriff wrote: "It's British for GMT"
You must mean "UTC", SQL doesn't have a GETGMTDATE function. 
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