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Maybe if I were at expert level, but I'm not so it's easier to use a framework that someone who knows a whole lot more than me has made.
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I actually agree with the article in some aspects.
if the project scope is small to medium: stick with basics: JS/CSS easier to maintain over the years/developers.
if the project gets to be large to stupid big: frameworks do help out in at least keeping things organized. but are a super pain when updating to a new(er) version. (if possible, we still have a Angular 1 project that no one wants to touch in fear of it breaking)
I was surprised the article mentioned Handlebars.js, since it's not much of a framework and more of a lightweight approach to making html partials with some customizing if needed. I feel like this belongs also in the medium range of projects, help keep you organized but not get in your way of development. technically it's a backend server side renderer, but it's also easy to build a front end version of the same thing, takes about a day to build most of the features.
where I work we have technically 3 types of projects:
* basic html5/JS/CSS -when no DB is needed
* ASP.Net core/JS/bootstrap -when DB access is required
* React/bootstrap.
The first two I enjoy working in, the projects are quick and fun, the last takes way more time to work out the features and layouts, and just feels heavy in final implementation.
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I agree with the line at the end of the article that says:
Quote: But at the end of the day nothing works better and is easier to debug and maintain than just pain JS and native CSS.
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I have been hoping that WebAssembly would become the new "framework" that way folks wouldn't feel the need to encapsulate the horror that is JavaScript.
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Just as Jacquers said, this is a solid way to ensure that you end up developing your own UI framework that's both poorly tested, poorly documented, but worst of all is not known by anyone but the current developers working on it. How much time is a business really going to want to waste re-inventing the wheel when there's frameworks out there already?
I would think it'd have an impact on recruitment as well. It's all well and nice to mention that the front-end is written using vanilla JS and CSS, but ultimately at some point the question is going to be asked "what sort of front-end libraries or frameworks do you use?" and someone is going to have to explain that this developer (with experience with Angular + React + Typescript + LESS/SASS/SCSS) is going to have to learn a whole new, custom framework. Yikes 
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I've been doing web dev for many years and all I ever add is jquery and a common js file. There's no need to build your own ui framework. Keep it simple.
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I have yet to see a framework that was worth the trouble to lean. So many of them lead to inefficient code and unindexable database queries that they simply aren't worth the hassle.
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Frameworks are "good" if all you ever do is write the same type of app; typically featuring lots of "data grids".
Want to model the solar system? Then forget it.
It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it.
― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food
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8 versions of Angular in 6 years! The problem is not just keeping up with the latest version: some old projects are still using the older versions. When the customer comes back to you with a feature request, you have to write/maintain code that interacts with old Angular. Plus later versions of Angular use Typescript which developers have to learn as well. The learning curve is very steep with Angular and is difficult to troubleshoot when things go wrong.
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I was going to object with "what's wrong with VCL or WPF", but then I've read it's about web UI frameworks, not UI frameworks in general.
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What I want to know is which company this is:
Quote: I once interviewed with a really big video game company. You know what their development policy was changing to? Plain ECMA (JavaScript) and CSS.
because that is just impressive 
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Server side Blazor is very underrated for web work. Then again I don't have anything pushed out to production yet, but the development experience is so much nicer.
It's going to get even better when they get hot reload to work.
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I like Angular, but the author has a really good point when you get to V7 of it. And I can't keep up with upgrading Angular versions, finally coming to a road block on V7.2 or something, breaking my entire app when compiling because my .Net framework won't play nice with it. Constantly having to change NPM packages to fix an issue. I need to revisit my website when I get time again. I may just dump it and write a new one in something else.
I'm working on a PHP App Upgrade for a customer and decided to keep it in PHP but went 7.4.14 using objects I wrote, plain vanilla JavaScript ECMA6, and Plain CSS that I wrote from scratch along with BootStrap 5. I'm almost a year in now and I've been able to code in peace without having to upgrade anything. This app should be able to run another 10 years without an update.
If it ain't broke don't fix it
Discover my world at jkirkerx.com
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The drive gave up the ghost about a week ago; maybe the "phrik kee noo" pepper (translation: "spicy sh*t of mouse") chilified electrons in the Thai electricity was just too much for it after 4 years of constant guzzling.
Two days later, after the usual tearing of hair and clothing, in states ranging from paresthesia to paranoia, a 1 terabyte WD Blue was installed, Win 10 installed, and ... you know what comes next ...
The excruciatingly tedious tribulations of restoring, reinstalling, reregistering, driver downloads, Win update after update, sucking the backup honey down from various clouds.
Lost some good stuff, including parts of a code library for geometry functions I intended to publish here ... darnit; just after i had coded for finding the foci and perimeter (using a Ramanujan approximation) of ellipses. Contents of GDrive partially bolloxed, some OneDrive stuff transmogrified into hexadecimal teratomas.
I hear what you are thinking: in my defense, let me say I was about to do my weekly full image backup.
Here's a strange thing: after all this foofaraw, suddenly, when using Skype, the built-in laptop camera now renders my ugly mug in full color, instead of fifty shades of gray.
May you be ever free from such afflictions !
cheers, Bill
«The mind is not a vessel to be filled but a fire to be kindled» Plutarch
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BillWoodruff wrote: I hear what you are thinking: in my defense, let me say I was about to do my weekly full image backup.
So ... why not restore the previous weeks?
Yes, you lose 7 days work, but that's waaaay better than losing it all. Or am I missing something? 
I can strongly recommend dual drives: SSD for apps and Windows, a separate HDD (or SSD if the finances run to it) drive for data and work. Separate backups, and if one goes, you don't have to waste time with the other. And obviously, never rely on OneDrive or Google Drive as backups rather than simple transfer / duplication media.
But that's probably preaching to the choir anyway!
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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suggestion:Dell laptop is very good.
diligent hands rule....
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My 2012 Dell Latitude agrees with you.
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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I've used Dell laptops for over 20 years and will soon buy the next one. The current one is an XPS-15 that will turn 5 next month, but it's getting a little long in the tooth, with its ZXCV keys having become flaky.
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I have a Dell XPS 15 - 9570 and I like it too.
diligent hands rule....
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Time to start using GitHub or Azure DevOps or something for storing (and versioning!) your code?
(But that sucks you lost data)
cheers
Chris Maunder
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I posted long time ago for my old HP computer that can not power up. I got lot of of tips from this lounge.
two weeks ago, my area got a power outage and my workstation Dell T1700 SFF can not power up.
I speculated the power switch button or power supply may be the key reasons. so I ordered a power switch button for $5.99 and power supply for $30.00 from eBay. yesterday I got all of them in my mail box.
so this morning I installed these two components. it is very easy to install them with Dell's simple and clean design of chassis.
press the power button, then it starts to reboot now...
diligent hands rule....
modified 15-Aug-21 21:14pm.
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There's nothing like diagnosing and fixing your own equipment. Always gave me a sense of accomplishment, and a feeling of independence.
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yes, I have such feels. also I gained more confidence on Dell computers. So all computers in my home are Dell...
diligent hands rule....
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