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Died (supposedly from cancer) in a Chinese prison.Quote: "The greatness of non-violent resistance is that even as man is faced with forceful tyranny and the resulting suffering, the victim responds to hate with love, to prejudice with tolerance, to arrogance with humility, to humiliation with dignity, and to violence with reason."
Liu's words quoted at the award ceremony for the Nobel Prize: Liu was not permitted to attend. [^]
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«Differences between Big-Endians, who broke eggs at the larger end, and Little-Endians gave rise to six rebellions: one Emperor lost his life, another his crown. The Lilliputian religion says an egg should be broken on the convenient end, which is now interpreted by the Lilliputians as the smaller end. Big-Endians gained favor in Blefuscu.» J. Swift, 'Gulliver's Travels,' 1726CE
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BillWoodruff wrote: the victim responds to hate with love
Doesn't work.
BillWoodruff wrote: to prejudice with tolerance
Doesn't work.
BillWoodruff wrote: to arrogance with humility
Ignored by the perpetrator(s).
BillWoodruff wrote: to humiliation with dignity
Hollow gesture, and means nothing to the perpetrator(s).
BillWoodruff wrote: to violence with reason
But they still end up dead victims.
My dad once told me that "The world is a sh|t sandwich, and every day you gotta take a bite." Despite your desire to love, tolerate, show humility or try to be reasonable, the plain fact is that a lot of people in this world simply don't give a damn. No amount of platitudes is gonna change their minds. That's why you have to f*ckin grow a pair, and be ready to and defend what's right, and visit violence on those who would disturb the world's calm. Hiding behind rainbows, flowers, and bibles NEVER works.
The answer to the question, "Can't we all just get along?" - "No".
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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So if you are on fire I don't have to p*** on you.
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I wonder if one way to put the fire out is to recognize that when you are burning, I am burning, and the world is burning.
«Differences between Big-Endians, who broke eggs at the larger end, and Little-Endians gave rise to six rebellions: one Emperor lost his life, another his crown. The Lilliputian religion says an egg should be broken on the convenient end, which is now interpreted by the Lilliputians as the smaller end. Big-Endians gained favor in Blefuscu.» J. Swift, 'Gulliver's Travels,' 1726CE
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Sometimes I sense a strange ... yet, paradoxically familiar ... resonance between the psychic posture of "dog eat dog" and the saint's embodiment of the optimistic assertion that there are "better angels" in our nature.
It's a feeling that these antipodal extremes are somehow whispering to each other across impermeable ontological boundaries ... that I can almost hear ... that.
But, I so often mistake my confusion for insight 
cheers, Bill
«Differences between Big-Endians, who broke eggs at the larger end, and Little-Endians gave rise to six rebellions: one Emperor lost his life, another his crown. The Lilliputian religion says an egg should be broken on the convenient end, which is now interpreted by the Lilliputians as the smaller end. Big-Endians gained favor in Blefuscu.» J. Swift, 'Gulliver's Travels,' 1726CE
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: BillWoodruff wrote: the victim responds to hate with love
Doesn't work.
Actually, love is the only thing that will work.
There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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Has hugging a terrorist ever worked in your experience?
(I suppose if you're quick enough to steal his bomb's trigger without him noticing)
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dandy72 wrote: Has hugging a terrorist ever worked in your experience?
I didn't say love will work every time, but it is the only thing that will have lasting impact for good.
There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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How come multiple names are bad and anti-alias good?
To your relief: PQOTW will take a month long break now
... such stuff as dreams are made on
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I am currently offshore, and at midnight last night I switched employer. Yesterday, I went to bed working for Maersk Oil, and woke up this morning working for North Oil.
North Oil Co. takes over as operator of giant Al-Shaheen oil field in Qatar
As manager of the platform, I have just held my first townhall welcoming all the staff and contractors on-board to the company and outlining the plans for the next few days, with the management visits etc. etc. And yes, we had cake! We have had the ceremonial tearing down of old company branding and handing out of new company branded overs to the core team.
A busy week ahead getting head round all the new procedures and standards, and getting activity on-board back up and running.
Next Friday I fly out to Cyprus to go and take over my new rented villa, and hopefully a few days after that my shipment should be ready for delivery. You have got to love technology, I have been tracking my container and it is currently being offloaded in Port Said Egypt, to be moved onto a smaller container ship for the last leg to Cyprus. The week after that my new car should be also ready for collection, nothing fancy, no AMGs this time, just a very practical Outlander! All the usual stuff to do, Bank Accounts, Internets, Utilities, blah blah blah....
Can't wait to take a dip in the pool and enjoy the views over a few beers! Cyprus Villa
Then it will be back to work again for another 3 weeks. At least after that the wife and kids will join me the day after I get back to Cyprus again.
It's all coming together....
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Excellent!
The pool looks tempting... 
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Following the saga, glad to have you back.
Be safe.
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Well, Brother Dave, congratulations, and (perhaps) deepest sympathies.
cheers, Bill
«Differences between Big-Endians, who broke eggs at the larger end, and Little-Endians gave rise to six rebellions: one Emperor lost his life, another his crown. The Lilliputian religion says an egg should be broken on the convenient end, which is now interpreted by the Lilliputians as the smaller end. Big-Endians gained favor in Blefuscu.» J. Swift, 'Gulliver's Travels,' 1726CE
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Congratulations.
It is really satisfactory when hard work stats giving results, isn't it?
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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"High ranking officers laid arms at sea." (8)
Nice and easy for a Friday .
Andy B
modified 14-Jul-17 5:33am.
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High ranking officers
laid arms at sea. (ANAG LAIDARMS) ADMIRALS
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Well done Griff, you get to start the CCC's next week.
Andy B
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You weren't joking when you said it was gonna be an easy one... 
One morning I shot an elephant in my pajamas. How he got in my pajamas, I don't know.
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I guess most of us at some point in their life have thought about the hypothetical situation where you, with your current knowledge, would be sent back into some point in history.
Just curious. How would you do there? What would you do? And perhaps the most intriguing question: what knowledge would you be able to use and how far would it get you in the world. What knowledge would be useless? Would be a farmer, a knight, a scholar, a king?
Some things to consider:
- You assume they speak English or a language you know, but it might be the form they used at that time.
- You assume tools and the likes are limited to that time, you didn't bring anything you can't carry with you (on foot)
- You assume you have to build a life there: earn money, marry, ... You cannot go back.
- You have the knowledge you have today, but of course, you can learn there.
Do indicate where in history you landed (ancient Egypt, ancient Greece, Roman empire, Middle Ages, ...)
Personally, chances are I would die in some horrible fashion. 
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V. wrote: Personally, chances are I would die in some horrible fashion.
If I somehow survived I'd probably kill myself.
No way I'd want to live in those barbaric times with the knowledge I have now.
Anyway, if that also isn't an option I'd put my strong analytical mind to work so I can figure out who to befriend and how, climbing my way up the social ladder, ultimately becoming rich and respected.
Just kidding, I'm a programmer, I'd still die
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Last week should be pretty safe, and sufficiently lucrative in terms of lottery numbers etc. that I can survive and then do what I like.
Going back before I was born gets into "nasty times" very quickly: WWII, then the Depression, WWI, and almost immediately the pre-machine, pre-medicine ages when you do indeed die pretty quickly. Heck, toilet paper wasn't invented until the 1850's, and that was like sandpaper! 
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OriginalGriff wrote: Going back before I was born...
Here I expected something like the 100 year war.
Why do you have to make things so complicated?
Join a merry band of Vikings, enjoy a few trips to France, England and Ireland until you can build yourself a nice big house from your share. Bonus points if you do some research to go on the most lucrative raids.
My personal tip: Go to Paris (885 - 886). You may have to row a ship up the Seine, even carry it past some obstacles. Once you are there, you must do nothing more than looking barbaric enough, so that they will try to bribe you to go away.
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Are you well practiced in swinging a 2 ~ 3 Kg sword (or even using a Seax)?
Because they were seriously expensive - more than your house in relative terms - and the skill needed to use one without being killed needs a huge amount of practice. And duels, feuds and just plain murders were common in Viking groups.
If you just "dropped in" without your own equipment, you'd be lucky to be fighting with a pointy stick ... against people who were used to a lot of hard, physical work and who have a very vested interest in killing you!
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OriginalGriff wrote: Are you well practiced in swinging a 2 ~ 3 Kg sword
As good as you can without really hacking people to pieces. The fights, of course, were choreographed. You might add 25kg chainmail and a heavy shield to the list.
OriginalGriff wrote: And duels, feuds and just plain murders were common in Viking groups.
Like any warrior in history, they also needed to rely on the others. All the things you mentioned were personal, which quickly happened when they thought you were unreliable. So, minding your own business and showing some competence may help a lot whenever you join some group of boyscouts.
OriginalGriff wrote: be fighting with a pointy stick
Everything is a lethal weapon in the hands of a Ninja.
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