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The Iron Lady.
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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Glad they ain't talking 'bout real intelligence.
But seriously fakery and bullshit is where these guys excel,
and if they want to keep it to just between themselves then everybody wins.
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FarceBook doesn't have anything to do with real intelligence, so any kind there has got to be an improvement.
I'm pretty sure that even ELIZA[^] could pass the Turing Test there with ease...
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Security makes strange bytefellows.
«There is a spectrum, from "clearly desirable behaviour," to "possibly dodgy behavior that still makes some sense," to "clearly undesirable behavior." We try to make the latter into warnings or, better, errors. But stuff that is in the middle category you don’t want to restrict unless there is a clear way to work around it.» Eric Lippert, May 14, 2008
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We are in the process of interviewing for new contract, a guy come in during his lunch hour and we go through the usual Q&A for the start of the interview.
The guy is eloquent and describes his last few project, MVC, ASP.net and some sharepoint.
So I ask which frameworks he uses and he rattles of a list of different service and client side tools.
Then I ask which WPF framework he is most familiar with, I get a puzzled look. I go into a little more detail citing Prism and MVVM light, more puzzled looks. I ask if he knows what MVVM means. He shakes his head and says he has never used it.
At this point I an somewhat annoyed, we a a primarily a WPF shop, and ask him what WPF projects he has done. None.
I then point out that he should give his agent a rocket because the CV I'm holding has WPF scattered through it.
He then tells me that "oh no that is my CV I wrote it". Interview terminated, duration 7 minutes.
How do these people expect to get through an interview let alone a job when they don't knoe the primary platform they are interviewing for.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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That's what annoys me about all these "interview question and answer" sheets - they are there to get someone who has no idea how to do the job through at least the initial stages of the interview process and nothing more.
And that's a huge waste of time for the company, the candidates that can do the job, and even the f'wit that gets a job he can't do by lying through his teeth... 
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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I'm pissed at the agency as well they are supposed to filter out the people who are not qualified. They obviously do no more than match text in the CV to text in the Job spec.
This guy did not even try to bluff his way through the WPF question, just I don't know anything about it.
Now to go and ream out an agent, there has to be some fun in the day.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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If you expect the headhunters to filter out unqualified applicants, you're in for a shock. If your resume even HINTS that you might have the necessary experience, you're encouraged to beef up your resume in that area.
Proof: I put my limited experience with VB.Net on my resume in an effort to show that I learn what I need to do the job at hand. I was asked over and over again to increase my apparent VB skills. I informed the headhunters that I had no real interest in a VB job. The same thing happened when I got my MCSA. They assumed that I wanted to be a DBA, and put me forward for DBA positions.
These people will do ANYTHING to cash-in on a fat commission.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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The problem was we got over 20 CVs and we had to winnow them down, I was under the impression the agency would do some work! Bloody idjit expecting that.
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: my apparent VB skills
Yeah I used to have Crystal Report on my CV buried in the 90s, was forever getting job offers using that abomination.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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MVC, MVVM, WPF, ASP.Net, ABC, XYZ, it's all just letters to sound cool. At the end of the day, it's all just code, right? 
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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On the CV and in the job spec it does seem so. But when the pillock does not even know what MVVM pattern is when applying for a job in a WPF house he need not even turn up! Save us all 7 minutes.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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Mycroft Holmes wrote: Then I ask which WPF framework he is most familiar with, I get a puzzled look. I go into a little more detail citing Prism and MVVM light, more puzzled looks. I ask if he knows what MVVM means. He shakes his head and says he has never used it.
On a side topic. MVVM is not a "framework" (it's more like a technic, or pattern if you are a pattern kind of guy)) and Prism... sadly it is a framework, though I heard the latest version were more like a library...
(yes, I confess, I have something against frameworks (vs libraries, that is))
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Yah I keep mixing them up, framework, pattern bleh!
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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I have never understood why people pad their CV/resume with skills they don't have. I mean really, what if the employer wants you to actually do what you falsely claimed you could do. I'm very good at winging it and that is one of my assets as an employee. However, I certainly don't want end up at a position where I need to be at a certain level of expertise and not have the ability to perform. You will make a fool of yourself, waste the time of the employer and leave a black mark on your work history that has the potential to follow you in your career.
I have created some iOS apps for product tests and demonstrations but I don't put that on my resume. I simply don't have the level of experience to call myself an iOS developer (Nor do I want to be). To me that is like riding a swing at the park and claiming a working knowledge of Newtonian mechanics.
It was broke, so I fixed it.
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I use WPF quite frequently but I have never used a framework with it. I have not seen the need to use one for the problems/challenges that I encounter. I also have a penchant for trying to figure things out on my own before running off to other people's code.
if (Object.DividedByZero == true) { Universe.Implode(); }
Meus ratio ex fortis machina. Simplicitatis de formae ac munus. -Foothill, 2016
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Foothill wrote: I have never used a framework with it
That's not the point, I could accept that he did not use a framework but I bet you know what MVVM is and could tell me the name of some of the frameworks available.
Simply stating that he used his own framework or pattern would have peaked my interest, I like innovation. This guy had no idea about WPF and it was sprinkled throughout his CV.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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I can see your point. If I was hiring for a WPF developer and a candidate lied on their resume about their experience with it, I would be more than a little angry too. I myself have seen instances where the recruiter doctored a candidate's history just to land an interview. Of course, I have also seen an instance where the actual person hired wasn't the one on the other end of the phone interview at my last job (H1B visa hire from overseas).
if (Object.DividedByZero == true) { Universe.Implode(); }
Meus ratio ex fortis machina. Simplicitatis de formae ac munus. -Foothill, 2016
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Spacethrottle
JavaScript gives you a false sense of safety. It's like riding a bike with those little side wheels and then riding head first into a ravine.
Sander Rossel
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Marco Bertschi (SFC) wrote: Marco Bertschi (SFC)
Safe For Codeproject ?
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Supposedly OpenOffice is not being supported much and LibreOffice is better, but I find the look of OpenOffice to be better. One little thing that bugs me about LibreOffice is the very large dropdownlist row size for the typeface selection, so I find that I'm not motivated to switch over. IDK, maybe I've been a user of OpenOffice so long that I am used to its quirks, especially the way that a matrix is selected when using the matrix functions.
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I tried OpenOffice under Windows a while back (XP days, I think) and gave up pretty quickly when it kept crashing and doing weird things.
I currently have LibreOffice on my Ubuntu 16.04LTS machine, and am happy with it. I'm not pushing any limits on it, dealing mostly with stuff imported from the M$ world. For example, it ran a colleague's Powerpoints at a recent conference; the only issue was a missing font and the substitute wasn't quite right. (I haven't bothered to load up a pile of fonts, just the default set.)
Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012
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I have the same quandary with Access 2003. I still prefer to use it even though I have the newest version w/365. I just hate the layout and organization of the newer version! I've only had to deal with the OpenOffice Base once when my dad tried to use it for a small charity organization. I remember disliking it for some reason but that was a long time back! 
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
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