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kmoorevs wrote: scripting javascript with PHP. 
Don't know if I should laugh or cry 
kmoorevs wrote: It's difficult to escape!
Try this[^] 
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Had to squint to read Spock's Beard!
I must admit I really listen to a whole lot of music genres (really, from black/death/thrash metal to hardstyle/dance/trance/dubstep to trip hop/chill out to hip hop/rap to classical), but progressive rock is one of the very few genres I really can't listen to... 
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Feel secured knowing that there's only the Dark Side in that (AJAX) arena, Luke.
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I know how you feel. A terrible language, half baked libraries, browsers with strange behavior and zools that are a pain to work with (even when they work). The stuff of which the future programming horrors are made.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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Actually, JavaScript is very powerful. I thought I knew JavaScript until I read "JavaScript the Complete Reference", or some such book. I then learned how much I didn't know about JavaScript.
It is a very powerful language that everyone should try to know, and I don't mean copying from the internet. I mean trying to understand the capabilities of the language.
Once you lose your pride the rest is easy.
In the end, only three things matter: how much you loved, how gently you lived, and how gracefully you let go of things not meant for you. – Buddha
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It's only as powerful as the interpreter makes it.
Other than that it's a loosely typed language that gives you nothing, silently handles errors, often doesn't even recognize errors as errors (undefined variable, now it's defined!) and is often very unpredictable.
Well, this website[^] says it all really.
The only reason JavaScript is so "powerful" is because it's the only option you have for front-end web development.
That's why everyone knows JavaScript.
And that's why every vendor wants to support it.
It's going to be the language for the IoT.
It's going to be the new language for embedded development.
It's going to be the new language for server side development.
It's going to be the new language to query (NoSQL) databases.
It's going to be the language that will plunge us into a dark age of programming!
Well, I admit there are times when I like JavaScript.
But mostly it makes up for very fragile code that blows up in your face because you misspelled a variable name, doesn't tell you about it, but gives you (really very wrong) results anyway.
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You need to internalize your anger, and then step back and try to be objective 
Once you lose your pride the rest is easy.
In the end, only three things matter: how much you loved, how gently you lived, and how gracefully you let go of things not meant for you. – Buddha
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JimmyRopes wrote: try to be objective
Don't get my started on 'OOP' in JavaScript
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Sander Rossel wrote: Don't get my started on 'OOP' in JavaScript
Obviously you don't understand the capabilities of the language.
Keep your hate speech to yourself. 
Once you lose your pride the rest is easy.
In the end, only three things matter: how much you loved, how gently you lived, and how gracefully you let go of things not meant for you. – Buddha
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JimmyRopes wrote: Obviously you don't understand the capabilities of the language.
Not sure why you think so, but I actually do. That's why I love it as long as I'm not writing it 
JimmyRopes wrote: Keep your hate speech to yourself.
Like any other on the interwebs I'm entitled to my public hate speech!
Just be glad I'm sophisticated enough to leave your mother out of it.
Especially after your pretty rude comment directed at me
Lighten up dude, I write about JavaScript (Node at the moment) in my blog and I'm sometimes pretty positive about it. Just not today.
That said I am planning to looking into TypeScript which, I hope, will take most of the pain out of JavaScript.
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Sander Rossel wrote: often doesn't even recognize errors as errors (undefined variable, now it's defined!)
Laughs.
Not familiar with "use strict";?
"When I was 5 years old, my mother always told me that happiness was the key to life. When I went to school, they asked me what I wanted to be when I grew up. I wrote down 'happy'. They told me I didn't understand the assignment, and I told them they didn't understand life." - John Lennon
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I am, but it makes it only a tiny bit better.
It doesn't make a loosely typed language static
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If JavaScript is path to dark side, would jQuery be the devil? What would Angular.js be and what role would be played by Modernizr?
When C# seems to look like JavaScript, you should get some rest.
The sh*t I complain about
It's like there ain't a cloud in the sky and it's raining out - Eminem
~! Firewall !~
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jQuery, Angular, Modernizr, what-have-you... All Sith Lords of course!
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There is beauty in the language. To me it feels like when you get sour lemons you make tasty lemonade.
Have you encountered this[^]?
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Perhaps I should read it sometime 
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One word:
Dart[^]
Next project
Marc
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I've been meaning to check out Dart! And TypeScript! 
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Any swear words towards JavaScript and the post receives an upvote from Agent_007. 
Sander Rossel wrote: The worst part is that when I switch to C# it looks so much like JavaScript
Seriously? 
You have just been Sharapova'd.
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Agent__007 wrote: Any swear words towards JavaScript and the post receives an upvote from Agent_007.
Agent__007 wrote: Seriously?
Same syntax and all...
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If I have 10 slices of bacon and you take 5, what do you have?
That's right! A broken hand and a black eye.
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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As I'm a 3XL and you are an M, I would say a good catch...
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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