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If you've been paying attention, you may know that I have some old DEC systems -- a MicroVAX and two AlphaServers -- Computers.png[^]
Today I mentioned needing room for a server rack and was asked something along the lines of, "Apple or Windows?" 
Certainly the person asking the question doesn't "know computers" and I'm not surprised that Linux wasn't mentioned, and she didn't recognize "DEC" as a computer manufacturer.
But it got me thinking: Does Apple even make a "server" OS? Other than maybe a render-farm, would a business run servers on OSX?
I took a quick binge and saw "OS X Server", but it looks more like a software suite to run on other systems.
modified 16-Mar-15 1:35am.
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I wonder, maybe you can install osx in a vmware esx server?
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so the person was under 25 years of age then ? 
wow - MicroVAX and Alpha's - I'd love to work on VMS or even RSTS/E (PDP 11/60 in my case) sometimes
PIEBALDconsult wrote: but it looks more like a software suite to run on other systems.
that was my recollection when looking at a company Mac-Mini issue - server software add-ons but not a full o/s
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Garth J Lancaster wrote: under 25 years of age then ?
Nah, but a real estate agent.
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So, IQ smaller than shoe size then?
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PIEBALDconsult wrote: maybe a render-farm
Not even that...Apple's computer do not rule the design word for 15 years now...
Saw Avatar movie? It was - mostly - rendered in a farm (belongs to Weta Digital) that runs Ubuntu installed on HP hardware...
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Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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Sure!
Apple servers get an ace every time, while MS servers are always swearing and cursing like McEnroe!
Don't waste your brainpower thinking about whether things exist or not; just lean back and think how cool an Apple server would look in your datacentre!
I think I'll apply to apple for work in their marketing department.
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Mark_Wallace wrote: just lean back and think how cool an Apple server would look in your datacentre
Sure[^] 
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*drool*
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The one that's less disgruntled.
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PIEBALDconsult wrote: Computers.png[^]
Looks a lot neater than some server racks I've seen (the cabling is extremely unobtrusive and tidy) -- but I'd have put the keyboard and monitor higher up; I prefer working in a chair, rather than lying on the floor.
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Mark_Wallace wrote: I'd have put the keyboard and monitor higher up; I prefer working in a chair
They're at that height.
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Server support is an upgrade to the standard OS package. (No clue if free or not.)
What they don't have is anything that looks like real server hardware for the end user. The old, now discontinued, tower mac pro had an option for rack mount rails; and a few years before then they sold an actual rack mountable server. Now, afaik the closest you can get is a 3rd party tray that will hold a pair of minis in a 2U slot. Suitable for hosting a corporate app store; but little else.
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--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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Quote: CPUs are maxed at 100%, disk I/O is fully saturated.
The sh*t I complain about
It's like there ain't a cloud in the sky and it's raining out - Eminem
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They're so bad they don't want anyone to hear their music (yet they still want to release something, anything)?
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Brisingr Aerowing wrote: Ummmmm... Why?
Because it's all about (everything except) the music, man!
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Quote: Cycles Per Instruction is now out on cassette tape + digital.
What's that!
The difficult we do right away...
...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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What killed music, apparently.[^]
(I assumed it was Simon Cowell, but I was wrong...)
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Last week, the wife's all-in-one started freezing, eventually failing to boot. It could still boot to safe mode, so I could save all the pictures, documents, favorites, etc. After several days of trying to save it, including going back to the only restore point that was available, (just 10 days prior to the failure) uninstalling updates, trying countless time to figure out which service(s) were the culprit. The system event logs were a mess, with lots of errors where multiple services were failing. I couldn't even get it to a state (due to pending updates) where I could run system file checker. There was only one thing left to do...restore it back to factory settings...Win8.0 and all the crapware you get with a new HP, or any OEM. (Norton, MS Office Trial, shopping apps, games, etc.)
I had thought about just installing the Win 10 CP, but realized who would be paying for it next year.
There's a lot of other things I'd rather be doing today, but herself is getting impatient having gone a week without it. She still has a laptop, but prefers to work on this one. I figure it should only take a few hours to get the updates done, then I can start moving her files back over. 
It all went relatively well, except for the upgrade to 8.1 which kept telling me that I had to install updates, even after I had manually installed all the updates available and restarted several times. It seems to have it's own schedule for when it actually installs things which is when I finally saw the 'update and restart' option. All in all, it probably took about 4 hours. The only thing left to do is add back the online account.
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
modified 16-Mar-15 17:43pm.
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I too am in charge of maintaining machines for a few family members, so I can share your pain!
I hope you don't have an intermittent hardware issue? I have never even worked on an all-in-one. I suppose you can replace the system's drive on these machines?
Best of luck! We still have a few hours of daylight left on the east coast! 
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Thanks! It appears you'd have to disassemble the chassis to get to the drive. The fact that it has been running non-stop for the last couple of days since I restored it seems to be proof that the hardware is OK...which is why I just let it idle disconnected for that long before spending the time to teardown/rebuild it. One thing is for sure, I need to pay better attention to the restore points this time around, and make sure they are getting created when important updates happen.
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OK, but also check out what I said about Acronis here:
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