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Take a look at this picture[^]. There really can't be any doubt that he is giving the referee the finger, or rather fingers as two makes it plural. But I realize now that I'm not a professional football player, and theres a perfectly reasonable explanation.
"The Portuguese football federation (FPF) reiterates that there was no gesture directed to the match referee and regrets the speculation which would seriously damage the interests of the player and the national team," they said a statement.
"The FPF clarifies that the gesture, which has been misinterpreted, was directed at team mate Bruno Alves and merely indicated instructions from coach Paulo Bento. Raul Meireles was just explaining that he would drop back to the position of central defender, playing on the right of the defence."
So, I guess the coach has some foul language when he explains his tactics; although that is not unusual in football 
WCMOTD = World Cup Moment of the day
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It seems simple to me, I think somebody asked him if he wants a Milk or Dark Choc-Ice at half time and he's simply explaining that he would like one of each. 
 PS that's sarcasm in case any one is not sure!
"State acheived after eating too many chocolate-covered coconut bars - bountiful"
Chris C-B
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I think he would like two yellow cards at once 
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You have to look very closely at the picture but it is not the finger typically referred to as "the finger" being extended... it is the index finger.
(Universal football sign for "tighten-up the marking"... and from the result you have to say, he had a point  )
modified 17-Jun-14 5:00am.
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<Add imagination>
NO!
</Add imagination>
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Nah, he is just giving the universal symbol for peace. Just with the wrong 2 fingers
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modified 17-Jun-14 6:41am.
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Technically, one of the fingers he used for peace was correct. The other one needs to be on the same hand as its sibling.
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Why did no one tell that we have changed the gesture? Since when are we supposed to use index finger?
BTW, it was a pathetic game. I support Portugal but would have settled for loss had they showed some desire to win and played like a team.
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Portugal were bad especially in attack, and the defending was appalling. Germany on the other hand played reasonably well and was quite effective in front of the goal, and it wouldn't surprise me if they get to the final or even possibly win the whole thing.
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Portugal did got few chances in first half and I think one in second. They messed it up though. For defense, I am not sure which game you were watching. There was no defense IMHO. The way Germany as played during games before WC, they are favorites. The have amazingly good bench strength as well.
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*cough* were playing 11 vs. 10.
~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus
Entropy isn't what it used to.
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Not from the beginning... And they weren't any better then...
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Reposted from the Database.
At the end of the 90ties we somehow got into ORM. At the time - no matter how hard we tried - we always ended up with a messy and complicated code and filthy compromises. And it hasn't changed. But somehow frameworks like NHibernate and EntityFramework are becoming very popular.
So here is my rant.
Some time ago I worked on large projects and things were pretty predictable. You've got DB model. You generate your SQL procedure layer and your C# layer. Then you create your component / web service / wcf service / restful service and serialize results of your C# calls as POCOs.
Now try to do this with fancy NHibernate objects with auto-resolving proxy objects for related entities. It won't work. Because when objects are serialized their auto-resolving lazy evaluating proxies aren't. To solve it you duplicate /I'll write it again, for drama effect: duplicate/ your objects to create serializable POCOs. And then you create them CRUD functions on top of object models. Or even separate the entities /drama: dereference them having no two entities connected/... And, hey, you are back where you were with the stored procedures - only with lousier performance and three layers of crap on top of it.
So next time someone comes with a fancy-schmancy ORM wrapper it better already include web service / wcf service or restful service abstraction and work on top of it; rather then bellow it! Because otherwise we just off-load drudgery to the web services and call it "business layer" when in fact it is really a freaking "ORM back to stored procedures layer."
There. Hhhh...shhhh... I already feel better.
So ... how do YOU handle ORM and web services?
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Tomaž Štih wrote: So ... how do YOU handle ORM and web services?
I don't.
Problem solved.
Seriously, anything that has anything to do with them sucks. It's cursed.
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Hear! Hear!
You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.
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Our company just decided to use ORM inside of lightweight (well, bloody heavyweight now) web api services.
five billion lines of code and much faffing about just to return the result of a simple stored proc as JSON
"OH! but what if the database changes, or we need to supply XML or..."
well, if it takes ten times as long to flaming well write as it does to knock it up with a flaming stringbuilder, then in my book it's a waste of friggin' time.
I now await the moment when something does change and it takes some poor developer three days just to find the right class to modify!
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Back atcha - I have been using a home rolled ORM for over 15 years, started in VB5 and now support Silverlight/WCF. So a new kid on the block manages to talk me into EF, f*** me roan, there is a piece of sh*t if I ever saw one, change the name of a field (Customer.Customer is illegal) and spend the next 5 hours trying to work out how to fix your models!
Yeah I know it is familiarity but I like my hand rolled tool, I wrote the frickin thing and I know what it does, if I call it a dog it goes off and barks at a junior dev for me!.
Now shall we get started on the dogs breakfast called MVC, what a collection of half baked crap that is! No, I fell a whole new rant coming on over the MVC issue.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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Tomaž Štih wrote: how do YOU handle ORM
I don't, and judging by this thread and others, I think you'll find that most developers with significant experience with code and databases don't use them.
It seems to be the development equivalent of wearing pants around your knees -- the practitioners seems to think it's cool, but to everyone else you're just causing yourself trouble, effort, and embarrassment with no benefits.
You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.
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What's orange and sounds like a parrot?
I said, "I don't know, what's orange and sounds like a parrot?"
He said ... "a carrot!" 
Look I'm sorry, I'm on holiday next week and I'm over excited! ![Jig | [Dance]](https://codeproject.freetls.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/jig.gif)
"State acheived after eating too many chocolate-covered coconut bars - bountiful"
Chris C-B
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DeathByChocolate wrote: I said, "I don't know, what's orange and sounds like a parrot?"
Chocolate, because Chocolate is always the answer.
I am happy for your vacation. I hope the weather is fine and you have great time Afterwards you can share some pictures with the rest of us.
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Argonia wrote: Afterwards you can share some pictures with the rest of us.
...Could be taken on a vacation, nudge nudge, wink wink, say no MOAR! [^]
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
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The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
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I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
Me, all the time
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I was thinking of a pictures of nice choco & ice cream melbas, the ones who can be found in islands like Bora-Bora.
You know exotic dishes.
But if you ask Death nicely you maybe can recieve your "nudge nudge, wink wink, say no MOAR!" pictures.
I believe you can pay her with ice-cream and choco.
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Argonia wrote: But if you ask Death nicely you maybe can recieve your "nudge nudge, wink wink, say no MOAR!" pictures.
I believe you can pay her with ice-cream and choco.
For some reason, I kinda doubt it...
But I can try: Aaaaaaliiiii! PLEASE! Pretty please! I'll give you all the chocolate I can afford!
Now, on the other hand: I know that Nagy can be easily bought off with a pint of gin, but somehow, that's not quite the same... 
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
Anonymous
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The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
Winston Churchill, 1944
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I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
Me, all the time
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Johnny J. wrote: pint of gin
It comes in pints?
You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.
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