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Unfortunately, MS doesn't seem to be able to "roll back" mistakes, even when it's clear that everybody hates them: The Ribbon, Fisher-Price start menus, VB ...
So I suspect they will be here for a while*.
* And be replaced with something that takes 1/3 of your screen and pulses multiple colours to tell you how far you have scrolled, probably.
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Their version of rolling back mistakes is saying "oops", and supending pushing the offending update.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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#realJSOP wrote: Their version of rolling back mistakes is saying "oops", and supending pushing the offending update
Until they roll out the next update, which will probably be even worse 
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
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I love this rant, because I hate those stupid pop out scroll bars too.
There is no reason for them.
I have a Mac Mini I remote to and I saw them on MacOS first, is that where they originated? It would make sense that Maconians thought they were a good idea, since Jobs loved 1-button mouses-meeses to pieces.
I believe in simplifying things, but scroll bars that hide themselves DOES NOT SIMPLIFY anything.
Oops, I'm shouting. 
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raddevus wrote: I love this rant
I try to be a crowd pleaser with my rants.
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Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny
Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802
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Actually, I think apple did this first, in their browser.
They were added to microsoft word ages ago, and are completely universally reviled -- as in, not one person who is not employed by ms wanted them or likes them. They are 100% hated.
What is worse is that this "wonderful new feature" broke the split-view button, at the top of the srroll bar (it now takes two clicks to split the view -- in half, so you then have to grab the split bar and move it), and destroyed the excellent navigation options at the bottom of the scroll bar.
In earlier versions of winio, there was an option to disable the bars' disappearing act (without restoring any lost functionality), but they removed that option -- and even the registry hack doesn't block it, any more.
It's unusual to see a developer complain abut such things, though, because ms devs are only ***ing up the bread-and-butter tools of non-devs.
It's a "When they came for excel, we did nothing" thing.
But they'll be coming after VS, soon enough. Just wait and see how badly they can **** up the bread-and-butter development tool.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Which gets me wondering, what exactly is the point of starring emails, as now the noise level of starred emails is as high as the un-starred ones.
I need a better system. Oh wait. It's called a bit bucket. Which now makes me wonder why BitBucket named itself after a digital trashcan?
I better stop wondering.
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Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802
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gmail?
What's that, then?
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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<RANT>
Pretty much every MVC-related article/blog entry/instruction video takes you through the process of creating a new MVC app, and usually an empty one. This is f*ckin pointless, because empty MVC apps are absurdly useless. Furthermore, MOST devs that are trying to find out how to do something ALREADY HAVE AN APP THEY'RE WORKING ON.
Advice: If you're going to create an article or blog entry regarding MVC, skip the introductory crap and get right to the subject of your blog entry/article. It'll save everybody time.
Lastly, it's becoming harder and harder to find a dev-centric video that isn't narrated by someone in the near-east. I admit it - I have an unapologetically lazy American ear. I don't want to dedicate brain power trying to understand broken English ON TOP OF trying to find out how to do something.
I now return you to your regularly scheduled chaos.
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".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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They who can't do, teach.
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And those who can't teach, administrate.
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
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And those that can't administrate, stand by your cubicle and keep you from productive work....constantly.
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phht, marketing keeps you from productive work no matter where they are
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Even worse than the Far Easterners who speak English in a weird accent are some of my colleagues in Israel, who have delusions of adequacy in the language. The misspellings, mispronunciations, and wrong words (taken from Google translate or the like) are truly cringeworthy.
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
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Hey, check out my blog, I explain how to create a new Blazor App on .NET core 3! 
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#realJSOP wrote: I don't want to dedicate brain power trying to understand broken English ON TOP OF trying to find out how to do something.
So why don't you instead view a video narrated by a native English speaker? Oh, right...
/ravi
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OK - honestly - can you actually understand that stuff? Even when the English is given in full-droning mode . . . or is that all perhaps some conspiratorial joke you pull on westerners?
Enquiringmindswantoknow.
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W∴ Balboos wrote: or is that all perhaps some conspiratorial joke you pull on westerners?
Thank you for assuming that I'm not a native English speaker. You should rethink your generalizations before posting. 
W∴ Balboos wrote: OK - honestly - can you actually understand that stuff?
I'm a Pluralsight subscriber, where most of the training videos are narrated by non-native English speakers. And those narrated by native English speakers are often spoken too rapidly for my taste. It's as if the speaker wants to come across as an authority on the subject by speaking fast. In any event, I'm able to address both issues by reducing the playback speed to 0.8 - 0.9 of the original. It makes the audio clear enough to be understood. YouTube has the same facility.
/ravi
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I should have used the joke icon.
In real life (chemistry) we generally had seminars in the international language of science: Broken English. Also - I always keep in mind that they speak English much better than I speak (pretty much anything else).
Again - sorry for the oversight. I'm very bad about picking a "Type" in replies.
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Ravi Bhavnani wrote: I'm a Pluralsight subscriber...English speakers are often spoken too rapidly for my taste.
Almost everyone of the videos are so boring that I crank the speed setting to 1.7x. I'm serious.
Man, in a book I can flip past all that stuff the author says that doesn't matter. That's difficult in the videos.
There are very few trainers I have to slow down to 1.4x (because they are actually saying important words per sentence.)
Others I can't understand at 1.2x and I quit their videos after 3 minutes.
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raddevus wrote: Almost everyone of the videos are so boring that I crank the speed setting to 1.7x. I'm serious.
Man, in a book I can flip past all that stuff the author says that doesn't matter. That's difficult in the videos.
Yes!, THIS ^
Needed to do some stuff with Laravel recently. Got the project files and about 8 or 9 video tutes.
Well, I've watched the videos through just once and have absolutely no desire to do that again.
It's about 12 hours of video for stuff I could extract from a written article in about an hour or two.
Elephant.
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Among the various "training videos" I had to watch last month was one presented by a native English speaker, but obviously an unskilled developer who could only get work making videos. One of the most painful parts to watch was when he tried to explain Regular Expressions. He had no clue what the expressions he was presenting meant.
He is, of course, touted as an "expert". I mean, he even has videos.
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I hear you. I recently sent feedback to Pluralsight about an instructor who has a series of videos that are little more than PowerPoint presentations spoken verbatim. 
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The videos I had to endure are from Skillsoft, whatever that is.
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Please remember: the true definition of the word 'expert' is a 'has been under pressure' 
A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, navigate a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects! - Lazarus Long
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