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Quote: Microsoft announced a significant reorganization of its Windows business back in March.
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The organizational changes mean that Joe Belfiore, who has been the face of Windows Phone in the past, is taking on more of the important consumer-facing parts of Windows.
So the guy who killed the [at that time] largest mobile phone manufacturer, sorry, couldn't sell the ms phone, sorry in plain words, has demonstrated a history of having no clue what people want now gets to be in charge of the consumer facing facet of windows?? FFS
Why don't they just come out and say they are killing windows, instead of [just like the phone] have a lot of people suffer when it [probably very soon] falls down.
hmm, ape-pol, klome-ass or linuts? (start with the cheap Chinese version in case first choice is wrong.)
This internet thing is amazing! Letting people use it: worst idea ever!
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Don't forget that prior to the takeover Nokia was having major problems due to the huge uptake of the iPhony - they weren't selling their "traditional" phones and didn't have a good smartphone that could compete. And the Windows Phone wasn't bad (though bits of it were pretty atrocious) - it just wasn't marketed as slickly as Apple did their overpriced tat!
But trying to make your desktop look like a phone nobody wanted to buy in the hope you might buy the phone was never going to be a good idea.
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The reason we run Windows is because we develop on it.
In the past we developed on it because everyone was on it.
So, once we can develop software elsewhere, why would we stay on Windows?
Once there is no Windows there is no reason to develop apps for it. 
Once there are no apps for Windows we will all move to other OSes where we are also developing apps.
This is all very circular. Or maybe it's a spiral, actually?
It seems to be the Windows death spiral. 
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Have you ever seen anyone do actual development on a phone?
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Yes. Apparently the guy at the traffic light in the car right in the front. You would not believe how concentrated he was.
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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CodeWraith wrote: You would not believe how concentrated he was.
writing Whatsapps while trying to keep track on farcebook status changes and having alook just in case there is a pokemon on the other side of the road... I think that was just plain too much for the 4 neurones. 
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
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CodeWraith wrote: Yes. Apparently the guy at the traffic light in the car right in the front.
Drop the phone and drive!!! 
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No problem.[^] He will.
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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raddevus wrote: It seems to be the Windows death spiral
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raddevus wrote: In the past we developed on it because everyone was on it.
So, once we can develop software elsewhere, why would we stay on Windows?
Once there is no Windows there is no reason to develop apps for it.
We developed on Windows, because MS supports the developer community. As someone who writes Linux-compatible apps, I'd say give it a try to switch to another platform, before shouting silly stuff like that.
DEVELOPERS! DEVELOPERS! DEVELOPERS!
raddevus wrote: It seems to be the Windows death spiral.
Yadayada. We been hearing the prediction for years, but still they own the desktop and the enterprise.
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"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Eddy Vluggen wrote: I'd say give it a try to switch to another platform, before shouting silly stuff like that.
I have tried it some and that's why I'm on Windows right now.  And I'm serious.
But, now with Visual Studio moving to other platforms...
Eddy Vluggen wrote: We been hearing the prediction for years, but still they own the desktop and the enterprise.
I know, I'm just jumping on the anti-microsoft-sentiment bandwagon. It's a load of fun. Jump on!!
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Eddy Vluggen wrote: because MS supports the developer community.
 Despite the thousands of bugs closed because "by design" and the deteriorating of dcoumentation quality, MS is still the best company in terms of develope support on such a large scale.
Eddy Vluggen wrote: give it a try to switch to another platform
I would make it mandatory, like military service in some countries. Maybe it will teach something to the competitors and the developers themselves.
GCS d-- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
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den2k88 wrote: I would make it mandatory, like military service in some countries. Maybe it will teach something to the competitors and the developers themselves.
Well, not for plumbers, but for developers, yes, good idea. It is like going to a foreign country; some things are similar, others vastly different 
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If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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OriginalGriff wrote: trying to make your desktop look like a phone nobody wanted to buy in the hope you might buy the phone was never going to be a good idea.
This is exactly why I dislike W10 so much. I can not stand its UI. I really wish they would allow different styles of appearance for it. Even W7 and XP had that functionality and I was really sorry to see it go.
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I wonder if this is the same guy who thought forced reboots for development machines was a good idea....
Charlie Gilley
<italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape...
"Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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I try to keep my OpenVMS-Fu from deteriorating completely.
It appears that much of the developers where I am are being forced to switch largely to Linux.
I suspect that someone far up above is anti-Microsoft, and maybe there's good reason?
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Ah good ole' VMS...happy days...I miss the distributed lock manager (which my phone just auto-corrected to "district attribute lick manager"...seriously, wish I was joking).
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Maybe he killed WP because he didn't know jack about phone design but is well versed in Desktop.
Maybe he learnt from company mistakes (the face can do a lot but ultimately the b*hole has more power).
Maybe he will kill MS alone and will silently gloat in his dark room having succeeded where everyone failed.
GCS d-- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
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Hi All,
Just wondering if Windows despite its attempt at phones and embedded OS, seems to have either stopped updating or abandoned them. Most everything I come across these days tends to be either Linux or some odd propriety OS (I'm guessing a shell over Linux) despite hearing about Win 10 Embedded I have never seen it, the last time I used a Windows XPe...
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Never used the Microsoft's embedded prefer Linux
Everyone has a photographic memory; some just don't have film. Steven Wright
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XPe was (is?) look like coding on standard Windows expect nothing quite worked the way you were expecting.
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Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote: If you have the option, use Linux...
You say that, but Windows CE was (and still is) kickass. IoT Core is pretty nice as well, even if their web site and licensing is all borked, which was the problem with CE.
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For no clear reason my company entertain moving from Windows IoT to Linux for our Raspeberry Pie stuff...
modified 4-Jun-18 20:51pm.
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M$? Is this 2003? 
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